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Posted: 25 May 2020

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#26 Andreaskreuz

#26 Andreaskreuz
SH26: a Traffic Sign
de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zahnradbahn_Stuttgart
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuttgart_Rack_Railway
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Aschi "Freestone", Fred Fouarge, Peter_Private_Box, Jan and 12 other people have particularly liked this photo

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 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club
That is an interesting sign! I guess it means there is a railroad crossing ahead. And is that flash part of it(?) Warning for a power line above the railroad(?) But what is that metal bar below for(?) =O
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
Thank you so much, Sami! Yes, the rack railway (part of our tram network) is crossing the road there (I have now linked the wiki article in the description). I'm not sure what the flash sign means but the metal bar is just something for cyclists to hold on to so they don't have to dismount, it's usual also on traffic lights.
3 years ago.
polytropos club has replied to Gudrun club
Ah, eine Haltestange für Velofahrer! Das nenne ich Dienstleistung! :-)
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to polytropos club
Ja gell! Ansonsten ist Stuttgart kein so gutes Pflaster für Velofahrer. Abwärts geht's hier sehr flott, aufwärts am besten mit Elektrounterstützung.... Die Downhill-Klientel fährt mit der Zacke (Zahnradbahn) nach oben und stürzt sich dann durch den Wald runter.
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Gudrun club
That is a clever idea that metal bar! =D

I suppose too many people had been leaning on such traffic signs too often. So, it has decided to attach such metal bar to lean on.

What comes to flash symbol, it indeed turned out warn for electric lines above the railway and road:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Road_signs_in_Germany#Railway_level_crossing_signs

But now another dilemma emerged! Why there are two ways to hang these X signs(?) Upright and sideways! =O

Here in Finland it is always only sideways, and electric line above the tracks has become something considered as self-evident :

commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Finland_road_sign_176.svg
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
I have been googling a bit: in Germany both versions are allowed, the sideways version is the older one. In order to avoid collisions it had be be hung higher and drivers tended to overlook it, so they changed to upright where it takes up less space and could be erected at a height that drivers can see it immediately. I guess it has a lot to do with narrow German roads;-)
3 years ago.
 Keith Burton
Keith Burton club
Brightly coloured and easy to see...........and I love the idea of having somewhere for the cyclists to grab on to. We have nothing like that here.

The lightening sign is normally a warning about high voltage electricity.
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Keith Burton club
Thank you, Keith! With Stuttgart's topography cyclists need all the help they can get;-)
Thanks for the explanation- the railway is electric!
3 years ago.
 Wierd Folkersma
Wierd Folkersma club
interesting sign, it really pops
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Wierd Folkersma club
Thanks a lot, Wierd!
3 years ago.
 Diederik Santema
Diederik Santema club
Very clear. No barriers?
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Diederik Santema club
No barriers at all, just lights. It's part of the tram network in town with one train ín each direction every 15 minutes and I know of no accidents there ( though there are plenty of accidents elsewhere with cars doing U-turns over tram lines where it's forbidden...)
3 years ago.
 Chrissy
Chrissy club
das gute alte Andreaskreuz.
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Chrissy club
Man sieht es immer seltener, weil die ebenerdigen Übergänge wegfallen.
3 years ago.
 Amelia
Amelia club
It's good to know that feel able to get out and about now, Gudrun. I wonder what trips you are missing so far this year?
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Amelia club
Thanks very much, Amelia! So far I have cancelled two trips to Hamburg and my big summer holiday to Iceland. I would feel comfortable travelling in Iceland but not comfortable at all travelling by rail and plane to get there...
This trip here was on foot and yesterday I managed to see my mother for the first time since February. I went there by car with a friend and we stayed outside with the required distance all afternoon:-)
3 years ago.
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club
By the way. That rack railway thing is awesome! There's almost no limits on what people can up with.
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
It's a fantastic trip -this time I walked, though;-) We also have a cable car that leads up to a big cemetery in the woods (jokingly called the "legay hunter express"). It's also part of the tram network and doesn't cost extra.
3 years ago.
 Percy Schramm
Percy Schramm club
Das gute alte Andreaskreuz mit besonderer Vorrichtung für Radfahrer - klasse Idee.
3 years ago.
Alltagsradler Teltow has replied to Percy Schramm club
Nun, der Bügel ist vermutlich als Schutzbügel für das Andreaskreuz montiert worden.
Aus meinem ersten Fahrschullehrgang (Traktor, im Rahmen des UTP-Unterrichtes) ist fest eingeprägt in meinem Gedächtnis hängen geblieben:
Die Verkehrsteilnehmer sollen vor dem Andreaskreuz stoppen, wenn sie warten müssen.
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Alltagsradler Teltow
Bei uns ist das definitiv zum Festhalten für Radfahrer gedacht, das gibt's auch an vielen Ampeln.
3 years ago.
Alltagsradler Teltow has replied to Gudrun club
Jawohl, bei den Straßenverkehrsampeln ist das definitiv so. Aktivisten des ADFC fordern ja deshalb auch die Installation solcher Haltebügel an Straßenverkehrsampeln.

Was Andreaskreuze an Bahnübergängen betrifft, da hast Du mich jetzt verunsichert. Da der o.g. Fahrschullehrgang bei dem der von mir hochgeschätzte Lehrer uns eingetrichtert hatte schon aus den versicherungsrechtlichen Gründen vor dem Andreaskreuz zu stoppen, im Jahre 1966 war, habe ich jetzt mal in die aktuelle StVO hineingeschaut um mich mit der aktuellen Vorschrift vertraut zu machen:

§ 19 Bahnübergänge
...
(2) Fahrzeuge haben vor dem Andreaskreuz, ... vor dem Bahnübergang zu
warten ...
3 years ago.
Gudrun club has replied to Alltagsradler Teltow
Hier ist abwärts für Autos gesperrt und selbst aufwärts gilt ein zeitlich begrenztes Durchfahrverbot. Radfahrer dürfen, bei teilweise mehr als 16% ganz schön herausfordernd;-)
3 years ago.
Alltagsradler Teltow has replied to Gudrun club
Bergab:
Mit einem 3-Kreisbremssystem (davon eine teure Hydraulikfelgenbremse) kann man dem gelassen entgegensehen:
www.ipernity.com/doc/2016556/48696832
Bergauf:
Nun, Alltagsradler wie unsereins bevorzugen Nabenschaltungen. Bei heutigen 7-Gang-Nabenschaltungen sind die „Abstände" zwischen den Gängen so groß, dass mit einem 24er Kettenritzel der erste Gang „langsam" genug ist.
3 years ago.
 Jan
Jan
well it doesn't say much does it? Great find. interesting sign Gudrun
3 years ago.
 Peter_Private_Box
Peter_Private_Box club
Hi Gudrun

A very nice picture, of a nice everyday object.

i did have a quick look to see if I had any other pictures of these signs from Germany, but no.
(Not with electric wires).
In England we always have a big triangular sign giving the safe clearance height under the wires, but some people are too stupid to read it...


Best Wishes, a nice weekend, and stay safe!!
Peter
3 years ago.

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