Andy Rodker

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Posted: 07 Jul 2020

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What is (was) this?

What is (was) this?
Well its obviously a bridge of some sort in Bellas Vistas, Madrid and I came across it on a walk today. It nagged me that I felt sure I had seen it before and that I knew what it was but had forgotten how, why or when!
Well later today I remembered. I had seen it before but from up a tower block where I gave a few classes some years ago. From the student's window it was quite clearly used at one time for carrying a track of some kind but now all there was to see was grass growing there. I asked my student who explained it was part of Madrid's long defunct tramway system!
I was pleased that my annoying mental itch earlier in the day had been gently scratched away!
Having said all that, I have just seen from Google Maps that its called Aquaducto de Amaniel!
So I am again none the wiser!

A former guest member wrote; Thank you for showing this interesting bridge. I tried to find some information, and on
they say that it is an active aqueduct. The site has been updated a last time actually in 2018 and they show two photos.
As I do not know so much spanish, I was not able to collect much information, but for example
seems to say something similar.
I was not able to find information in connection with a tramway, but at
the spanish word "tramo" is being used which might have been misunderstood. I would suppose, in this text, "tramo" stands for construction section (Bauabschnitt, in german)
they show several photos of it, but I do not find a verbal explication at wikipedia sites.
Best wishes and have a great day

ROL/Photo, Holger Hagen, Eric Desjours, Marie-claire Gallet and 34 other people have particularly liked this photo

43 comments - The latest ones
 Nicole Merdrignac
Nicole Merdrignac club
Superbe. Nicole.
3 years ago.
Superbe cadrage
3 years ago.
 Andy Rodker
Andy Rodker club
Many thanks to you both!
3 years ago.
It's a beautiful bridge and I love the shadows. I hate it when I forget things like that. And I forget words too. I gather it's nothing to worry about if you remember them later but it is irritating.
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Jean
You're right, Jean!
3 years ago.
 Malik Raoulda
Malik Raoulda club
Une belle perspective arcadée...!
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Malik Raoulda club
Thank you, Malik!
3 years ago.
 Roger (Grisly)
Roger (Grisly) club
Nice combination of brick and stone to these lovely arches Andy, I do like the shadows and the angle of your shot.
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Roger (Grisly) club
Kind of you! Thank you, Roger!
3 years ago.
 Peter Castell
Peter Castell club
A great composition Andy, may be the tramway will make a comeback, Birmingham are spending vast amounts on extending theirs, I'm surprised it wasn't turned into a walkway. Was there a Spanish equivalent of Dr. Beeching? what an idiot he turned out to be
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Peter Castell club
From what I remember of my view from above is that it really is in too much rack and ruin to be used as a walkway and most of the tram system followed current roads so it wouldn't have worked.
I bet this has been scheduled for demolishion for years but it probably wasn't economically viable to do so. Maybe the last recesson scuppered its destruction; the current one about to slam into us will certainly leave it be!
3 years ago.
 Jenny McIntyre
Jenny McIntyre club
Well I can understand the "itch" you had and from this angle you couldn't possibly know what it was used for. So it used to be a tramway - it's a beautifully built bridge nevertheless.
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Jenny McIntyre club
Indeed, Jenny!
I was annoyed that I had forgotten all about it and even that I had forgotten the student from 7 years ago from whose flat I saw it from above!
3 years ago.
 José Manuel Polo
José Manuel Polo club
El puente mereció la foto. Leída tu pregunta y lo del tranvía... mi primera impresión es que en otro tiempo bajo los numerosos ojos de ese puente pasara un río... pero el número de ojos rechaza esa idea pues en Madrid no hay ni hubo río que necesite tanto paso. Alumno razón.
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to José Manuel Polo club
Agreed, José Manuel. Of course there must have been an arroyo here but whether it dried up 10,000 years ago or with the general lowering of the water table as Madrid expanded ... I don't know!
3 years ago.
 Peter Chet
Peter Chet club
A great view and photo Andy.
Pity GE street view shows nothing either. Regards Peter
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Peter Chet club
Google Street Maps showed me just now that its name is Aqueducto de Amaniel! I am back to the starting point of knowing nothing!
3 years ago.
 Fred Fouarge
Fred Fouarge club
Klasse Perspectief Andy!
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Fred Fouarge club
Thank you,
Peter and Fred!
3 years ago.
 William Sutherland
William Sutherland club
Excellent capture! Stay well!

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3 years ago.
 Eric Desjours
Eric Desjours club
Very nice shaded perspective on this quite charming bridge, Andy.
And again a story that makes us look at it with a smile ;)
3 years ago.
Annemarie club
excellent pic compo, and great find!
3 years ago.
Amelia club
It may have been an aqueduct before it was a tramway. Whatever, it's a nice piece of architecture, Andy.
3 years ago.
 Ulrich John
Ulrich John club
Very nice perspective with this fine diagonal. And an interesting text ! Good Morning, Andy ! Have a good Wednesday !
3 years ago.
 Jaap van 't Veen
Jaap van 't Veen club
Beautiful bridge; well composeed Andy.
3 years ago.
 * ઇઉ *
* ઇઉ * club
A masterpiece, Andy! ;)
Seriously, not only the bridge is an architectural gem,
but the perspective you choose makes the image a masterpiece too.
3 years ago.
Berny club
Beautiful perspective and construction and I supposed it to be some kind of railway bridge!
3 years ago.
 Keith Burton
Keith Burton club
I did a bit of research as well Andy..............and turned up this: from the City of Madrid Film Office. It seems it was almost certainly an aquaduct.

I'm guessing that it was once scouted for a film location?

A lovely photo by the looks splendid in the sunshine!
3 years ago.
Berny club has replied to Keith Burton club
very interesting Link!
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Keith Burton club
Great find, Keith! Thank you for the research!
I still have the contact details for my student who wrongly advised me that it was part of the old Madrid tramway network. Should I contact him and put him right?
Or should I let sleeping dogs lie?)
3 years ago.
Keith Burton club has replied to Andy Rodker club
I'd tell him, he'll appreciate your candidness, but thank him for trying to help :-)
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Keith Burton club
Have done so, Keith.
Not only did he thank me for putting him right but he has asked to resume classes as from next week (4 years after our last class!!)
I presume you would like your ticket clipped, Keith!
3 years ago.
Keith Burton club has replied to Andy Rodker club
That would be nice..............
3 years ago.
gezginruh club
Hi Andy,

It is a really wonderful shot of this beautiful bridge!!
First I thought it is a railway bridge. Then I understood "Aquaducto de Amaniel" is a aqueduct...
Thank you for the nice sharing!
Also thanks for these useful links, to Wolfgang W.W, and to Keith Burton.

Stay safe!
Best wishes
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to gezginruh club
Thank you Füsun!
I was confused at first, then thought I had the answer but now really do have it, thankd to Keith and Wolfgang!
3 years ago.
 Rosalyn Hilborne
Rosalyn Hilborne club
Good shot from this perspective Andy and a good explanation. Don't worry too much about forgetting. It happens to all of us ;-))
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Rosalyn Hilborne club
Thank you Rosa. Did you see José Manuels research and links with great photos; it's worth a look!
3 years ago.
Peter_Private_Box club
Hi Andy

A very nice picture, with great perspective.

I spent a while looking at this on Google. My opinion is that is could never have been for a tramway it is too narrow.
English aquaducts (eg Pont Cysyllte)are purposely built just slightly wider than the standard narrow boat. The water flow around the bows then guides it down the middle, so it never hits the sides! No doubt the Spanish knew this too...

Best Wishes, a nice weekend, and stay safe!!
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Peter_Private_Box club
Yes, I've been corrected already. If I had the contact details of my old student who lived nearby and misinformed me, I would put him right. Alas, I don't!
I saw the Google info and it's all interesting and your added info helps build a more accurate complete picture, Peter
Thank you and best wishes,
3 years ago.
 Eric Desjours
Eric Desjours club
It looks like the green coulée of Bastille south of Paris that you might know.
This pretty light, more spring-like than summery, gives it a really pretty perspective.
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to Eric Desjours club
Thank you, Eric.
The light? ... maybe reduced traffic on the roads and less polution.
I don't know Paris at all well, Eric. One school trip for a week, camping in the Bois de Boulogne in 1975 (great fun!) and a quick 2 day visit with my French exchange partner and his family at their Paris flat in Creteuil near Paris in 1977. But both visits made a great impression. I know Lyon much much better!
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
ROL/Photo club
Andy c'est en tous les cas un bien belle ouvrage mais s'il est
classé comme Aqueduc ,il servait à faire passer l'eau d'un point à un autre..
3 years ago.
Andy Rodker club has replied to ROL/Photo club
Yes, all has been clarified, Roland! My student who wrongly informed me, was either ignorant or he was joking; I can't decide which!
3 years ago.

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