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Posted: 27 Jun 2020


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Position Comparison of Statistical Data

Position Comparison of Statistical Data
Left: old arrangement.

1) The arrangement of the FAVs is rather unsteady. (green highlighted)
2) FAVs are jumping into first position as soon as there are no comments. This is increasingly the case up from page 9. (Generally, pictures in 'What's hot' always have favorites, but about a quarter of them have no comments at all.)

Right: new arrangement:

1) The arrangement of the FAVs is neat and always in the same position
2) The absence of comments no longer has a negative effect.

Kawasirius, Malik Raoulda have particularly liked this photo


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 Isisbridge
Isisbridge club
The view count is surely the most important statistic, as all photos will have views before they acquire faves or comments, and some will have no faves or comments at all.

Putting the view count to the far right creates an unsightly gap on unfaved photos, whilst leaving the statistic completely detached on portrait-sized images, so that it appears to belong to the next photo.
3 years ago.
 * ઇઉ *
* ઇઉ * club has replied
• The expansion in 2013 or 2014 of "Explore/What's hot" from nine to eighteen pages has not proved to be successful, as the added pages are not used by most users to discover new members or contributions, as is proven every day.

• The required minimum number of favorites was reduced from ten to four at that time, and one of the rules of the group "Ipernity Frontpage & What's Hot" was adapted accordingly.

• The required minimum number of comments was completely removed. This may have been due to repeated manipulations, which in turn affected the number of visitors.

• However, visitor numbers were never relevant for images on "Explore/What's hot", otherwise they would have been part of the algorithm. And there are good reasons for this, as indicated above.

Considering the concern for the reputation of the web designers and the ima team, I would therefore kindly ask you to consider a return to the algorithm of that time and reduce "Explore/What's hot" to nine pages again. So instead of tinkering with symptoms, the causes of several "unsightliness" could be eliminated.
In light of this request or suggestion, and for reasons of responsible use of the energy of all of us, I would like to put aside for the time being a description of my work flow as admin of the group " Ipernity Frontpage & What's Hot" and rely at least on the understanding of the ima team.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
 Bergfex
Bergfex club has replied
This gallery shows "popular" photos. As * ઇઉ * correctly states below, the number of visits is not relevant for this. It has therefore never been displayed before. Here it is only a question of the order: FAVS - COMMENTS or COMMENTS - FAVS.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
 Bergfex
Bergfex club has replied
It is of little help to unravel the whole package and thus open up a new major construction site. Especially since we still do not know where the algorithm is actually hidden. Rob's assumption is even that it doesn't really exist as an isolated formula, but that the order of the posts in "What's hot" is determined by a multitude of scattered conditions at different places in the program.

Therefore, even if we wanted to, we could not go back to an "algorithm of that time". There is no documentation anywhere where you can read what this one was like. Obviously, the one we live with today is the result of many undocumented tinkering by several programmers in different places. To search for them is hopeless.

Surely we have to really cleanly recreate the general topic in the context of reprogramming. But please don't overwhelm us with it now.

At the moment it is only about the visual harmonization of the layout.
3 years ago.
 Bergfex
Bergfex club
Addendum: My personal impression is that the number of comments seems to have an effect nevertheless. One could find this out by empirical analysis of the positioning even without knowledge of the algorithm. Alternatively, one could carry out targeted test series. For both I lack the time. Besides: what do I do with the knowledge? Manipulate the position of my posts? What for? There are really more important things in my life than dealing with whether and at what point a picture of me appears in "What's hot".

But to be honest: Sometimes I play with the community. Because I know very well which kind of pictures the majority likes. I then have fun uploading a picture of that kind. And look: The community works as expected: www.ipernity.com/doc/bergfex/50043336 (more than 50 FAVs).
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.

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