Group: Ipernity Members Association Project


Regarding Payment of dues and Donations.


Stormlizard
By Stormlizard club
14 Mar 2017 - 18 comments - 571 visits- Permalink   |   Translate title into English

Unfortunately Denmark has a law regarding Online Purchase and or Payment of Subscriptions to Organisations with the use of Credit and or Direct Debit cards such as Visa. Card holders are required to have a 'NEM-ID' a form of special Password that is used online in dommunication with Govenment department Web sites and Net Bank.
Many people like myself were excused in that we do not use Net Bank or exchange sensitive personal information over the Internet.

So whenever I pay my subscription to Ipernity for example I use PayPal and my Visa Direct debit card.

This was refused today while attempting to Donate to the Crowd funding program.
John, alias stormlizard.
18 comments - The latest ones
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club
We are now seeking ways to help each other to get donations payed. For example John's Ipernity Club membership ends on Autumn 2018, and my Ipernity Club membership end till the end of this month. I lalredy payed donation on my own behalf. Then the plan is that I donate also on behalf of John, and he then sends me an equal amount via PayPal.

There are however number of open questions:

1) Will the donation payed now cover our membership for the future, and for how long?

2) Will John get refund from Ipernity S.A. on already payed membership to them?

3) If I pay the donation on behalf of John, how we make sure he gets the benefits?

4) Do I still need to renew my membership for April (and longer) via Ipernity membership payments?

5) We have been told already that 10,000 € out the donation money goes to Amazon, to keep the service running. However, what exactly we members (donating people) get with that money?
7 years ago.
William Sutherland club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
At this time, I would recommend not renewing memberships or if you did so, to do it for no more than 1 month.

Consistent with Fotoblip the donation is purely to keep the site running so that we can participate without interruption and continue to use it. If anyone makes a donation on behalf of another person and receive compensation through paypal, make the donation in their name and they should get credit on the Indiegogo roll.
7 years ago. Edited 7 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to William Sutherland club
Thank you William =) I will be a guinea pig on this with John, and donate in John's name.
7 years ago.
 HappySnapper
HappySnapper
I was under the impression that the IMA was seeking to open a PayPal account for the crowdfunding program and was a little surprised to find that Indiegogo (a Crowdfunding agency) had been appointed for this operation. I do hope PayPal will be used to transfer our annual subscription payments in the future.
7 years ago.
 Nicolas Mertens
Nicolas Mertens club
Could you please make arrangements so that payments/donations can be made through PayPal? Thanks in advance.
7 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Nicolas Mertens club
I advice making similar arrangement with some of your friends as I am about to try with John (Stormlizard). I pay on behalf of him, and he sends me the money via PayPal.

As far as I have understood this donation goes directly to pay the rents for Amazon. None of the money are not specifically marked as personal membership payments yet.

There are several open questions as I mentioned above. For example will any of us get refunds on Ipernity S.A. Club membership payments that are already payed(?) My Ipernity Club membership ends on April 4th. William advised me not to renew that via Ipernity pages anymore. We will see what happens to me after that...

And what will happen on the day when we hopefully get the fund collected to bale us out for March and April server costs(?) Will the situation become finally "locked" at some point, and people become asked to do the personal payments to confirm their IMA membership(?)

While waiting things sorted out, and also getting answers to many of our questions, I recommend we just try to get the crowd funding done in a way or another =)
7 years ago.
 William Sutherland
William Sutherland club
Happy Snapper and Nicolas,

Unfortunately we cannot use Paypal. Indiegogo the vendor determines method of payment and we have no say. I would have preferred to use my Paypal account but had to use a credit card.

Below are some common donation problems per Indiegogo and their statements re: donations:

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7 years ago.
Stormlizard club has replied to William Sutherland club
Denmark is obviously one country not supported as the country name was removed during my attempt to pay using Visa direct debit.
7 years ago. Edited 7 years ago.
 Sami Serola (inactive)
Sami Serola (inactiv… club
Folks, if you do as we did with Stormlizard, I strongly advice waiting till the crowdfunding campaign is over before you send any money between friends!

There still is no guarantees the growdfunding will be successful. If it fails, the deal is over, IMA fails, generosity.com will pay the money back to each and every donor, and then individuals would need to pay back also the money to them whom they have helped.

So, if it is not a big deal to wait till campaign is over, then do so. If the campaign is success, then after that start to worry what each and everyone has to reimburse between friends =)
7 years ago.
 Johan
Johan
Another Dutch Pro member has kindly offered to donate on my behalf (after I have transferred the money to him, of course). So that is settled!

However, my Pro subscription runs out in three weeks from now. Should I renew that? What happens to the money I pay to Ipernity for that? Will they fund the IMAP initiative? Or would it be "lost" money for us as members?

Thanks for some insights! :-)
7 years ago.
autofantasia club has replied to Johan
I'm not involved in the negotiations Johan, but the IMA have previously said that people should not renew memberships until they have taken over the platform. Hope that helps somewhat! :)
7 years ago.
Treasa Ui Cionaodha has replied to Johan
I advise you do not give IP/Sa your renewal The money will stay with them and not one cent will be given to the IMA
7 years ago.
Stormlizard club has replied to Treasa Ui Cionaodha
I had already paid for two more years at the time just before Ipernity gave their first warning of eventual closure December 2018, I currently stand as a Club member until October 2018.
If our I M A is a success I assume that I will not need to pay another subscription until it runs out, or that I may need to pay extra to cover any price adjustment after our takeover.

I hope that any fiture payments to I A M will allow the use of PayPay, Ipernity SA doloes already..
7 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Johan
Johan, I recommend not to renew your Ipenrity Club membership with Ipernity S.A.. Wait till IMA hopefully gets the control and sort out how it will continue with this site. There is no guarantees that Ipernity S.A. would reimburse anything after IMA continues, or if the web site becomes closed after all.

My club membership also runs out on April 4th. I will continue as a "free user" untill we know more. I have asked Ipernity S.A. to offer renewal plans for shorter periods like for one month only, but no reply so far.
7 years ago.
autofantasia club has replied to Stormlizard club
I'm afraid given it's unlikely Ipernity SA will transfer any monies to the IMA if and when they take over. If that's the case then we will all need to 'pay again' to become members of the 'new' ipernity and accept any monies paid previously to Ipernity SA will have been lost.

In an ideal world, even if the monies paid to the site's current owners were not transferred to the IMA they would honour existing memberships. However, given the fact that insufficient funding has been a big part of the site's troubles the IMA will need every penny they can get just to keep the site going.

As I say, not ideal, but given where we are at I see no alternative! :(
7 years ago.
 franco benf
franco benf club
I in Italy I made a donation with a post prepaid pay, everything went well, no problem, I received an email confirming my donation, a good solution, I did not want to use credit cards for this
7 years ago.
 autofantasia
autofantasia club
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Please bear in mind though that this still includes the numerous and suspect donations made by soca.jorge1986 who donated $3,862 via 18 separate donations.

Working on the assumption though that these donations may indeed prove to be bogus that would mean that we have actually raised $24,698 which leaves us just short of the initial target by a mere $302.

Crowdfunding To Save Ipernity - Donate Here
7 years ago. Edited 7 years ago.
 autofantasia
autofantasia club
The crowdfunding campaign has now hit $29,000 thanks to 480 people in 9 days. Minus the possible bogus donations that leaves $25,138 meaning the initial target has been reached! :)

Crowdfunding To Save Ipernity - Donate Here
7 years ago.

This discussion has been closed by Sami Serola (inactive).