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Edit keywords in case of capitonym errors
Capitonym?
"A capitonym is a word that changes its meaning when it is capitalized." -Wikipedia
One may wonder why there may appear different keywords for cases like bridge and Bridge, thus also producing different browsing results, and referring to different keyword ID numbers.
Keyword search for photos and documents is not case sensitive. So, you do not need to care about capitalization when using the photo or document search narrowed down to keywords only.
But the keywords themselves are case sensitive. That affects when opening the keywords from the Explore Keywords, or when opening the keywords given next to each document.
Sometimes there can be even a good reason to make the difference. So, if someone actually does want to use upper case first letter keyword Bridge for the images of Bridge in Kent, then unfortunately capitonym errors may cause "noise". Or in case of words that is the same in different languages, like [DE] Winter and [EN] winter. Then it makes sense to add both.
Even when the document search is not case sensitive, one should still be careful on how to use keywords to avoid errors caused by capitonym. The recommendation is that people should follow the language specific grammar.
Think of your audience. For example German nouns should be capitalized. If you wish to help people to find your images with keywords in most used languages, then provide for example German keywords (nouns capitalized), English keywords (names of the places capitalised) and French keywords according to French grammar.
If you wish to correct some of your own capitonym errors, then go to your 'Photos' and open the 'Search by keywords' option from the 'Photos' drop down menu.
What you get is the index list for all of the keywords you have ever used. Then check through especially names of the places, hover (point with cursor) on the keyword you wish to correct, and choose 'Edit' (see the main image).
But if you have had a "bad habit" to use upper case first letter for all of the keywords you have been using for years, then this would turn out as an overwhelming task.
"A capitonym is a word that changes its meaning when it is capitalized." -Wikipedia
One may wonder why there may appear different keywords for cases like bridge and Bridge, thus also producing different browsing results, and referring to different keyword ID numbers.
Keyword search for photos and documents is not case sensitive. So, you do not need to care about capitalization when using the photo or document search narrowed down to keywords only.
But the keywords themselves are case sensitive. That affects when opening the keywords from the Explore Keywords, or when opening the keywords given next to each document.
Sometimes there can be even a good reason to make the difference. So, if someone actually does want to use upper case first letter keyword Bridge for the images of Bridge in Kent, then unfortunately capitonym errors may cause "noise". Or in case of words that is the same in different languages, like [DE] Winter and [EN] winter. Then it makes sense to add both.
Even when the document search is not case sensitive, one should still be careful on how to use keywords to avoid errors caused by capitonym. The recommendation is that people should follow the language specific grammar.
Think of your audience. For example German nouns should be capitalized. If you wish to help people to find your images with keywords in most used languages, then provide for example German keywords (nouns capitalized), English keywords (names of the places capitalised) and French keywords according to French grammar.
If you wish to correct some of your own capitonym errors, then go to your 'Photos' and open the 'Search by keywords' option from the 'Photos' drop down menu.
What you get is the index list for all of the keywords you have ever used. Then check through especially names of the places, hover (point with cursor) on the keyword you wish to correct, and choose 'Edit' (see the main image).
But if you have had a "bad habit" to use upper case first letter for all of the keywords you have been using for years, then this would turn out as an overwhelming task.
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Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Taormina clubIn this respect, I am of the opinion that, in principle, no distinction should be made between upper and lower case in a keyword search (Bridge and bridge should therefore appear together).
If - for whatever reason - I deliberately want to see only the uppercase version or only the lowercase version, then the "word" should be marked with dashes (which is a common handling).
Another German speciality are so-called umlauts (i.e. ä = ae, ö = oe, ü = ue). Some avoid this typical German spelling and choose ae, oe or ue (as is also common for email addresses). This too should not lead to separate results in keyword searches as a matter of principle.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Be◉bachter clubAn example for the deliberately incorrectly written word 'sNoW':
www.ipernity.com/search/photo?opt=1&q=sNoW&w=0&t=0&lic=&s=2&m=1&view=2
The problem merely occurs if and when one picks one keyword from the photo margin, or from the 'Explore Keywords' list.
An example of the keyword index word 'Snow', seen on the last month's list:
www.ipernity.com/explore/keyword/224780
What comes to German language, I wonder why the nouns are capitalized(?) But it also should not matter, if all would do that when using keywords in German. Just like in Finnish we have our own grammar, where for example we have plenty of closed compounds, just like in German. And now younger generation has taken example from English writing, and started to separate the words which should be closed compounds. Sometimes it makes their messages funny to read. But mostly it only annoys the senior citizens.
But in case of umlauts, I do understand that people with British/American keyboard feels tempted to write ae, oe, and ue, when not finding ä, ö and ü on their keyboard. A quick look on Wikipedia article reveals to me that there are not even [ ¨ ]-key on the British/American keyboard to get them with the keyword combination [ ¨ ]+[ a|o|u ].
Be◉bachter club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… clubThese are the rules! I can't help ;-))
Instead of " ..." you could choose ' ... ' . Is this a problem on British/American keyboards?
Berny club has replied to Be◉bachter clubBergfex club has replied to Be◉bachter clubDass wir die ipernity-Suchmaschine unseren - nachvollziehbaren - Wünschen anpassen könnten, ist Utopie. Vor allem im Hinblick darauf, dass Rob's Amtszeit am 28. März endet. Das ist in 6 Wochen.
Also gehe ich den von Sami vorgeschlagenen dornigen Weg, alle meine jemals vergebenen Schlagwörter zu editieren. Dabei stelle ich fest, dass nur meine Vorstellung dornig war. Morgens, mittags, abends je eine halbe Stunde - und schon bin ich beim Buchstaben 'F'. Noch eine Woche in dem Tempo, dann bin ich durch. Dabei korrigiere ich gleich eine Menge Flüchtigkeitsfehler, die dazu geführt hätten, dass viele Bilder niemals per Stichwort gefunden worden wären. (Buchstabendreher, etc.)
Insofern ist das mal ein richtig konstruktiver Hausputz. Ich bin froh darüber, dass wir duirch Zufall auf das Problem gestoßen sind.
Bergfex club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… clubAnd as we can read in the cited Wikipedia article, the English don't have it easy either:
ares - Ares (metric unit of area - god of war)
cuban - Cuban (relating to cubes - from Cuba)
march - March (to walk briskly and rhythmically - the third month of the year )
and so on . . .
The significance of this issue was not entirely clear to me before our discussion. In the meantime, however, I must unfortunately admit that the distinction between the keywords according to spelling makes logical sense.
I have chosen the pragmatic way: I edit my keywords without further ado. It's just a little painstaking work. In the process, I correct some mistakes or add "winter" to "winter".
Bergfex club has replied to Be◉bachter clubWarum sind füllige Frauen gut zu Vögeln?
Wäre er doch nur Dichter.
Sich Brüsten und danach was Anderem zuwenden.
Sie konnte geschickt Blasen und Glieder behandeln.
Berny club has replied to Bergfex clubSami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Berny clubwww.ipernity.com/explore/keyword?p=month
More problematic are those who use capital first letter always. If one uploads only few images per month, and use keyword like Water, they do not become seen among results for the keyword water used by the majority.
One then of course can use both. And in case of German, it sometimes is even recommended, if the word matches with English (e.g. Winter, winter).
Most important is to try be coherent, and follow the language specific grammar as well as possible.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Be◉bachter cluben.wikipedia.org/wiki/QWERTY#Specific_language_variants
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Berny clubKeyword index is a different thing. For good reasons, each keyword were given an unique index ID number.
However, one CAN search photos on keywords only, and it is NOT case sensitive:
www.ipernity.com/search/photo?opt=1&q=aUsTraLiA&w=0&t=0&lic=&s=1&m=1
Berny club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… clubSami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Berny clubwww.ipernity.com/explore/keyword?p=month
There it is case sensitive to particularly find exact keywords.
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