Group: No censorship


78 Group Members: 1 € per Day


Iljuschin
By Iljuschin club
14 Jan 2010 - 6 comments - 827 visits- Permalink   |   Translate title into English

Assume this supporting group stays to have 78-85 members, assume too all 78 are Pro Members paying 23,88€ per year, we talk about a budget of 2000€ rounded for one year. Assume next ip team has 5 members (maybe more currently?), we talk about giving one euro per day for management, equipment like servers,storage and internet bandwidth and btw salary for each member.
It is not astonishing we do not hear anything about this by the team.

The main aim of this group is, as I understood, the demand of installing a filter system as discussed more than a year ago, means: New tagging feature for pictures, tagging them as nudity/violence/etc to filter out those entrys for anonymous visitors and members which have set their account to surf moderate content (which can change every member without post indent methods and other absurdity) and, in consequence a advice to management to do not lock out members if there are any complains by other members if the pictures are tagged as described.

Well, there are two ways to underline the need of this extension: This group has much more (paying) members than 78. Or those 78 organize the bucks for the coder. I do not know the calculation for this extension but 2000€ is worth for 2-3 days of coding the complete issue, with translation in all languages and performance testing. That does not work.

ipernity was founded as a file sharing service for families but as e.g. free DropBox-Services with storage and easy-to-use explorer integration are much more simple to use for this purpose the main usage for ipernity drove to photography use, at latest when flickr starts to be censr in germany, austria and suisse. At this time we had the offer to switch to a non US company without a jittering management being thrown to jail in germany because a minor see a boob while surfing.

Time changes. ip has grown, but I cannot say if there are so much paying(!) members, that this business can be carried on, even if they had found a inverstor. But i am shure ip staff did't bought ferraris to drive to work, and the investor is not google, yahoo or microsoft.

What I want to say is, that I really understand the complains about locked out users and missing communication of the team (which was 2 years ago completely different), but we have to see the facts.

ipernity is not

* High Class Photograpy Portal with rigid moderated upload criteria like 1x.com
* Millions of User, World wide known photography sharing service like flickr
* photo contest, member bashing, ugly-interface-which-costs-for-boobs like fotocommunity
* Easy-To-Setup-make-your-own-Photoblog-without-community like many

ipernity is at the moment a european service for photograpy addicted people which mostly like the people they met here, easy photo stream service, a photo blog with community.

Did I miss something? Nevertheless, ip is our community, and a service which keeps up running if we pay. If we have wishes there is no free lunch. I had a short look, but only one of four administrators of this group is a pro member. Think about it.
6 comments - The latest ones
 .t.a.o.n.
.t.a.o.n.
i thought about becoming a pro, dear iljuschin, but the circumstances are not very inviting me to do this at the moment.

one question: do i have to be a pro to have some interest in making ipernity better as it is ?

i wrote it in my blog - i'm a part of ip (as non-pro or pro, probably a pro more than me..), my work is a part of the ip-community like the works of every non-pro or pro are. all parts together are ip, without them, without us, without the users there is only an administratory left... we're only a little group right now, but it grows day per day, because more and more people see the danger of the beginning of censorship on this platform.

maybe there are some others like me, maybe a lot of people are thinking about becoming pro, but the censorship averts this. maybe the ip-admins should think about this... ;-)
14 years ago.
Iljuschin club has replied to .t.a.o.n.
No, you can complain without being a pro, it's a free world, isn't it? I understand that current developments prevents paying 23,88 but at the end of the day this dicussion seems to be chasing in its own tail. No fees - no service, no service - no users.
14 years ago.
 .t.a.o.n.
.t.a.o.n.
as a pro you're getting more service than a non-pro... and it's great to have this platform for free, with lower service but space and many possibilities!
generally ip makes a great job, but in the case of the censorship they don't do. it's time to change before many users are cancelling their account, before many artists are going to another platform. ip would be poorer then...
when i see, that some others are going back to flickr, i get sick !

i try to help making ip better than it is at the moment, i found my home here and i want to stay, as a pro or non-pro, however. for this I'm in this group and if ip sees how many people are not accepting their practising of censorship they maybe work for a solution of the existing problems. i'm optimistic, but not too much...
14 years ago.
 .t.a.o.n.
.t.a.o.n.
Any discussion is allowed in this group, and i understand the thoughts from iljuschin very well, it's an aspect of the whole discussion and it's good to think about what he's saying !

but the main aspect is the censorship and the concequences for ipernity ITSELF ! it began as the most open and tolerant platform i know, and now it's becoming more and more restrictive and many further flickr-users are having a flashback...

what does ip want ? in which direction the river shall flow ? in face of their ignorance many iperians have the feeling that they don't want such kinds of arts on the platform... i'm wondering about and i have no intelligent answer...
14 years ago.

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