Group: Ipernity User Help Central

Ich weiß nicht, ob ich richtig verstehe, was du möchtest, aber wenn du ein Album umsortieren möchtest, so dass die Fotos anhand des Erstelldatums sortiert sind und nicht anhand des Uploaddatums, dann kannst du das wie folgt machen:
1. In das Album wechseln.
2. Oben rechts auf "Werkzeuge" klicken, dort dann das Zahnrad anklicken ("Fotos neu anordnen und mehr").
3. oben dann auf "Reihenfolge verändern" klicken und nach Aufnahmedatum sortieren.

That is not correct. I wish to have every photograph I upload to show as the date I uploaded it, which would be accurate, and not show as the date it was taken, which is usually not accurate.

HaarFager, what do you want? On your photo page you will find both dates, the date you took the picture and the date it was published. If you move your mouse over the date, the term "change" will appear. You can change the recording and the upload date, i.e. you can also enter the exact recording date. Obviously you also know the date, because it is under the picture, as you can see in your photo. www.ipernity.com/doc/haarfager/48892490

There are also editing programs that keep the recording date in the EXIF. Then everything is fine. Some also replace the date with the processing time. Then the date is no longer correct. But as already said. You can change it here.

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I don't want to have to change it for every single picture. I want a setting I can choose that automatically sets it to the upload date. And I shoot mostly film, which does not have EXIF data. That is a problem as well. Everybody has automatically adopted the new system of EXIF, when film photography has been around for over a hundred years. But, let's just not do anything to help film photographers anymore, they're not relevant because technology says so.

Thanks for the detailed explanation, which helped me a lot. There are still some minor points which could use improvement. Following youir instructions, when I returned to the album view I didn‘t see any change, because my changes had not been saved. Clicking the „save“ button on the left had no effect (in Safari under iPadOS 14). I had to first click the „X“ next to the albuim name (which I was afraid to do, for fear of deleting the album) and was then asked if I wanted to save the changes. Also the options talk about „date created“ and not „date taken“. These are two different things.
P.S. The problem with the "Save" button seems to be peculiar to Safari under iPadOS 14. In Firefox 81.0.2 under Windows 8..1 Pro x64, the "Save" button works as expected.
@Sami,
Thanks for responding. Perhaps the sort choices under "organize" could be expanded to offer both file creation date *and* EXIF date taken. Then the meaning would be clear, and those choosing "date taken" would have to ensure that the EXIF tag is present, or risk having the undated photos listed all at the start or at the end (your call).

Thanks for the feedback. We have very few iPad users giving us feedback on this. Or at least I do not recall this mentioned since ipernity members association took over the place. It can be also some upgrade done on Safari browser that causes the issue you described.

What comes to "date created", I guess it is intentional, because some image files can be also created. For example heavy editing of photos may delete the original EXIF date, and then you no longer can't say the image would have been "taken".

On the photopages both dates are shown: The upload date is shown in small letters below the user name and the date taken is shown in big letters below. But probably you are talking about the photostream page? On that page if you choose the middle or large view size indeed only the date taken is shown as default. If you hover over the date also the upload date is shown.

There is no setting that allows to change that. I will try in order to see what happens if the date taken is deleted from Exif-data before upload. Maybe the date taken is set to the date uploaded if there is no Exif-data about the date taken. But I will have to test that.

There is no EXIF data for most of my images because they were taken on film and film doesn't need to include EXIF data. I include that myself. And anyone can as well, it's very simple and understandable. It doesn't take a genius to be able to add it.

I have just tested with one of my pictures:

If I delete all date taken information from exif data before upload ipernity will set the date taken to the date uploaded. I don't know your exact workflow and the software that you use. You have said that you include EXIF data yourself. So the solution could be that you don't add a date taken to your EXIF data. But I don't know if your software allows that.

One additional remark:

I would be interested in feedback whether my last comment was of any help for you or not. The honest answer to your initial question how to change the settings that only the upload date is shown and not the date taken is: That is not possible.

But please don't shoot the messenger.:-) I can't change that.

So i tried to find some workaround that might help. The idea was that ipernity is forced on upload to set the date taken to the upload date if no date taken is contained in the EXIF data at all. I know that this won't help with respect to photos that have already been uploaded. But it could help that future uploads are shown as you wish.

Das sehe ich auch so. Aber ich verstehe ehrlich gesagt nicht, warum sich jemand die Mühe macht die Fotodaten derart übersichtlich und detailiert in die Bildbeschreibung zu setzen, dann aber nicht bereit ist, das korrekte Aufnahmedatum mit zwei, drei Klicks einzustellen, zumal es bekannt ist. Das jetzt im Nachhinein für hunderte Bilder zu tun ist natürlich aufwendig. Das würde ich bestimmt auch nicht machen.