Group: HFF - HAPPY FENCE FRIDAY

Ik sluit me bij 'Biobauer' aan. De groep werkte jarenlang prima en is waarschijnlijk de meest actieve groep op Ipernity. Kennelijk heeft niemand zich gestoord aan wat dan ook, anders was het niet zo actief gebleven. Teveel regels - ik ben wel een voorstander om alleen rond de vrijdag plaatsing mogelijk te maken - en een soort 'fence'-censuur zijn naar mijn idee niet nodig.

Ich stimme Biobauer zu! Wenn es bierernst wird, verlasse ich die Gruppe und gründe eine Funny Thursday Fence-Gruppe:)

and I will found a thirsty-thursdays-group ;-)))))
With no rules ;-))))))

Ich bin für Begrenzung: 1 Foto pro Woche !!! pro Mitglied (und bitte nicht bereits am Donnerstag)

Es kann doch jeder für sich soviel Zaunfotos hochladen wie er möchte ...
ABER ES MUSS JA NICHT IN DIE HFF-GRUPPE SEIN

P.S. natürlich ist mir bewußt dass es Zeitzonen gibt - und die Fotos dort zu den Freitagen eingestellt werden können.

... die ganze Diskussion hier ist bislang an mir vorbeigegangen. Staune JETZT, worüber hier überhaupt debattiert wird: imo war es IMMER so, daß jeder, der Lust hatte, am Freitag (seiner/ihrer jeweiligen Zeitzone) EIN Zaun-Foto hochzuladen.
Simple Regel, die leicht zu merken und einzuhalten ist.
.. die (wenn ich es richtig sehe) von Jens losgetretene "Bürokratie-Debatte" ist m.E. überhaupt erst dadurch entstanden, daß Einige (er auch !) meinen, massenhaft Zaun-Fotos in die Gruppe schaufeln zu müssen. Dass war NIE Sinn dieser Gruppe.

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I agree with aNNa just one per week, but I don't think you can be to strict with the posting time for two reasons, the different time zones and Friday may not be convenient for everyone and I think Thursday ready for Friday is better than late Friday evening.
I think if a divider could be added to separate the weeks it would be useful

I agree about the time (as close as you can get to Friday) and a divider would be handy. :)

Es bedarf m.E. keiner schriftlich besonders fixierter Regeln, wenn sich jedes Mitglied -wie bereits die große Mehrzahl der aktiven- daran hält, nur ein Foto am Freitag mit Grüßen zum Thema Zaun in diese Gruppe zu laden. Man schreibt schliesslich auch nicht mehrere Karten (z.B. zu Weihnachten, Geburtstagen etc.) an einen Addressaten, grüßt Einzelne oder eine Gruppe (je nach Tageszeit) auch nur einmal. Wenn ich z.B. meinem Nachbarn (auch) freitags mehrmals einen guten Tag wünschte, befürchte ich, dass er es (mich) nicht ernst nimmt ...... und wer möchte das schon? {:o)

Warum sollte das hier anders sein ........ als im wahren Leben? {;o)

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About this group: ‘A fence photo posted on or around your Friday.’ Enough said!
Context, description and relevance best left to the author in most cases I reckon.

ps maybe a note somewhere explaining that the photo does not need to have been taken nor posted to Ipernity on a Friday though. Simply this group.

I agree fully...one photo only published in the group on your time zone Friday

I would recommend not to establish rules.
This group worked very well for years without admin, without rules, without discussions - and became one of ipernity's most successful groups. Perhaps for these three reasons....

So I cannot see any need to change a succesful group. Moderation will take time an manpower, moderation will disencourage some members - and till now there wasn't ever any need for moderation.

I can't see any need for changes at all.

And I have to add one point:

I really appreciate that there is this discussion giving members the chance to explain their arguments and to try to convince others.

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Das war bisher die einzige Gruppe, die wirklich Spaß gemacht hat, da gerade die Freiheit in der Gestaltung und die legere Handhabung niemandem Vorschriften gemacht hat...wir lachen zusammen und denken nicht an Zwänge und wir senden uns gute Wünsche...das reicht als Motivation für ein schönes Miteinander! Macht nicht kaputt, was gut läuft und fangt nicht an, uns zum Spießern aufzufordern! Das wäre der Anfang vom Ende!!!

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In my opinion this is not a new discussion topic, or not even something that were already solved long time ago with some "common silent agreement". By going through the earlier discussions, the amount of allowed contributions and lack of group administration has been questioned more or less in regular bases. And not only in this group but all over ipernity.

But as people have then very likely discovered, the majority does not read the group rules and discussions anyway. So, I guess people have either just given up and left the group(s), or started to ignore the whole situation and keep on dumping images everywhere they can and want to.

The way how former owner of this web site (Ipernity S.A.) arranged the algorithms for groups and group guidelines were pretty well thought, except the situation when the group administration goes to some absent user account. In the ideal situation there would always be some existing group administrator to contact. And if nothing else, then that administrator could at least say:

"Sorry, as a group administrator I say this is how it should be. You are free to choose whether to let things go, or leave the group."

One argument and rhetoric really then is to say it should not matter if groups go "wild", with no administration at all. It is then of course one option. Most of the groups here at ipernity has become as such. They are nothing else but shared folders to dump as many images as people like to. Not much different than to view through some search results or keywords.

For example one could just as well run this search every Friday:

www.ipernity.com/search/photo?opt=1&q=happy+fence+friday&w=0&t=0&lic=&s=2

And then go through those search results.

So, how about choosing someone else to administrate this group? Someone who really does not care about limitations. Or even make it as a rule that everyone are supposed to submit at least 10 contributions every Friday.

And that was supposed to be taken as sarcasm. Meaning, that we can at least try to find some solution that most of the group members agree on. Set at least a limit of 10 images per week if nothing else, to avoid someone taking the "anarchy" to another extreme and submit 100 contributions at once.

The problem of course is as said, that people have used to ignore group rules and discussions unless they are forced to realize that something is going on. So, we may also have to admit this discussion here really is a waste of time. Majority of group members may not even know there is something going on.

I am administrating several groups myself, and I must say it is not very nice to find out someone has uploaded a lot of images at once. It is then most unpleasant to remove them and try to explain it to that person.

And the final point of this rant of mine is to say, that at least when we hopefully get enough money to reprogram ipernity, we then should reconsider the whole group thing. It is most certainly not easy to please everyone. Or let's acknowledge it, it is impossible to please everyone. But we can at least try to.

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Thanks Sami

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It's such a pity that Sami has retired.

Warum wird denn immer auf die Anzahl der Uploads herum geritten? Ich kann doch mit nur einem Klick zum nächsten Foto der Gruppe gehen und wenn mir das nicht gefällt dann eben weiter...ich kann wohl verstehen, dass ihr Euch um die Einhaltung der Regeln sorgt aber es gibt doch wirklich weitaus Schlimmeres als ein Zweites oder Drittes Bild! Ein Grund wäre Themaverfehlung oder Anstößiges aber das....Nein, das ist doch kein Grund hier die Freude an der Sache zu versauen! Ich weiß, dass Viele und auch ich einen ganz anderen Bezug zu Zäunen haben und sich tierisch freuen, wenn sie ein tolles Exemplar finden...die Gruppe ändert Sichtweisen, fördert wunderbare Freundschaften und macht Spaß über die ganze Welt!
Ich verstehe, dass ein Admin Regeln eingehalten haben möchte und ich zieh den Hut vor allen,
die diesen Job machen aber hier läuft was total falsch! Zusammenhalt bedeutet Toleranz und ein Lächeln...ich möchte Meines nicht verlieren...Bitte!!!!!

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Ich finde, jeder Administrator hat das Recht, das Hochladen von Fotos zu begrenzen (z.B. auf eins pro Tag) - das läuft doch in anderen Gruppen auch ganz gut, und keinen stört es. Andererseits frage ich mich, warum hier in dieser Gruppe Änderungen erfolgen sollen. Bisher hat es, so wie es war, Spaß gemacht. Keiner ist gezwungen, jedes Foto anzusehen und zu kommentieren. Gerade das Besondere habe ich an dieser Gruppe gemocht - man lädt ein oder mehrere Fotos hoch, wünscht sich HFF und ein schönes Wochenende.
Wenn nun Jens beispielsweise 3 Fotos hochlädt, so erlauben das die bisherigen Regeln. Und - Jens hat auch schon früher öfter 3 Fotos hochgeladen - keinen hat es gestört, warum also jetzt dieses Theater ? Wir wollen doch einfach hier nur unseren Spaß haben. Manchmal wird auch durch Diskussionen einfach zuviel zerredet - schade ...

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When I joined the group number of contributions were already limited, I gave what I think might be the reason. I don't mind changing the number of allowed contributions but I will not be able to comment on all as a matter of respect as admin... that's all. Commenting all entries is quite a burden as it requires a lot of time...
Now I am not the only admin here, Erika who was there before I was has to agree on that.

I think the Administration get the message I personal dont think that there, need be any more said on the subject, I know I do. This and the thread

www.ipernity.com/group/311821/discuss/189404

Made the point perfectly clear to us all. so I recommend we close that topic as "sorted" before it get into the uncivil thoughts. It looks like the number three is a point we can be all "happy with". I know, most will sort out our best , put in one shot. we have the right to comment or not on any photo with out putting some one in a bad light by not commenting.

I think that there is more than can be talked about than just the number of photos but this is how we learn. I believe also the topic of Thursday night entries is also a non starter as I believe it reasonable as well I know if I add a photo just before I go to bed Thursday night is not even close to Friday as far as Europe is concerned. We are a world of different time zones but I do think that we can draw the line at posting on the early part of the week. this is my thought and that also ties up well with what has already been discussed on the other thread as well.
I believe this is also a discussion that has been well thrashed out.

I do under stand Sami concerns as we are only seeing the same voices on the threads it may be we need to make the rest aware of the tread and how they should have there say here as well.

I would like to point out we are not making rules just trying to understand the wishes of the group that's why the discussion. If the points below make it as guide lines for the group we all agreed on them as how we can go forward.

1/ number of photos 3 for those that wish a week . Closed
2/ time to add photos early as possible to "your" Friday in your time zone. Closed

So the tread is still open on what we all would like to talk about eg .........

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I would like to propose if the group feel its a good idea. I have changed the banner photos from bubbles to a fence from one of mine on HFF. what I would like to propose we change the banner each week with a photo from that week that will fit the format of the Photo. I am told it can be done would you like to try and see if we can have a new banner and a gallery of photos chosen and which week.

to do this the chosen photo we need to get the Photographers permission to use the photo to add it to the banner much like mine. hope the idea is a good one.

My vote Steve.

It is Steve! :) +1

Good idea; you have my permission.

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Good idea to activate us! I suggest including also fences from the past. Way too many old pictures around here become forgotten.

I also suggest considering Creative Commons license. With proper attribution selected one gives only permission to republish, and it always requires that the author of original work becomes mentioned.

For example choose Creative Commons "Attribution + non Commercial + no derivative":

creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0

Sounds good to me Steve

Looks good to me !

Good idea; mine too.

I like the group.......
not every week I post HFF picas, but I enjoy yours......so lets go on:)
Thanks to the 4 for the efforts!

I like this group very much, it shows very well what diversity, individuality exists and it is fun with this in this group
What pleases or even not, is nevertheless very individual I keep it there with Immanuel Kant
Taste is not a matter for dispute

Chill out everyone! It's just for fun :-)

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A suggestion once again. Admins could consider either closing contributions entirely between Saturday and Wednesday, or set them to wait admin review.

Biobauer
An die Administratoren

Ich darf zwar drei Bilder pro Woche in die Gruppe einstellen aber die Software lässt mich nur alle 168 Stunden drei Bilder einstellen. Letzte Woche habe ich sie 9.00 Uhr eingestellt, heute habe ich sie erst 10.30 Uhr eingestellt, da ich kurz nach neun keine Zeit hatte. Das heißt, dass ich sie in der nächsten Woche erst nach 10.30 einstellen kann. Vermutlich werde ich sie in einem halben Jahr dann erst am Samstag einstellen können und niemand sieht sie mehr. Es wäre gut das zu ändern, so das ich sie am Freitag zu beliebiger Zeit in die Gruppe einstellen könnte.

Freundliche Grüße Jens
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To the Administrators

Although I am allowed to add three pictures per week to the group, the software only allows me to set three pictures every 168 hours. Last week I set them at 9 o'clock, today I did not set them until 10.30 o'clock, since I am short after nine had no time. That means I will not be able to hire them until 10.30 next week. Probably I will be able to hire them in half a year on Saturday and no one will see them anymore. It would be good to change that, so I'll get them on Friday could put any time in the group. Best regards Jens.

Jens

the limit has been set as three photo a week I can not change the soft ware you may have to go to the Ipernity board. I post one photo and never have a problem...

Steve

Im Grund genommen ist es mir egal, wie viele Fotos man einstellen kann. Jeder nach seinem Gutdünken. Unabhängig davon gäbe es ja auch noch die Möglichkeit der PiPs.

Ich veröffentliche immer nur ein Foto, weil ich mir dann vorher mehr Gedanken über dieses Foto mache. Das heißt, ich muss eine Entscheidung fällen, ob dieses Foto auch wirklich einem bestimmten Thema entspricht. Hier sind es: "Zäune".

Ich überlege mir dann:
- Ist mein Zaun nur zufällig auf dem Foto?
- Habe ich den Zaun bewusst fotografiert, weil er z. B. einen Rahmen bildet oder den Blick lenkt, das Motiv strukturiert usw. ?
- Ist er zentrales Element des Fotos, z. B. Detailaufnahme.

Diesen Anspruch stelle ich mir. Ob ich ihn erfülle? Das weiß ich nicht.

Aber Fotos von Türen, Tore usw. gehören für mich definitiv nicht zum Thema dieser Gruppe. Da kommt dann wohl eher der olympische Gedanke zum Tragen: Hier sein und mitmachen ist alles. Das fördert zwar dann den Zusammenhalt von Gruppenmitgliedern, aber mein Lehrer hätte früher gesagt: Ein toller Beitrag, aber leider das Thema verfehlt. :-))

In dieser Gruppe würde ich mir aber wünschen, dass bei den Fotos, die veröffentlicht werden, mehr Augenmerk auf das zentrale Element Zaun gelegt wird. Manchmal muss ich ihn ziemlich suchen. ;-)

HFF
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I have to rely on the translation and I hope that its is not lost "In translation".

You can see by the first part of this conversation the heated remarks that have been made. I also only post one photo per week so could not see what the problem is but the conversation got quite heated.

This was a topic I also wanted to bring up but after the "number of photos" saga I thought best left alone. to that aim I will defer to the group as well on this point I do think its a valid point some of the fences you just cant see them at all.

what is a "FENCE" gate ,stone wall or the very liberal idea the group has. like your teacher said

A great contribution, but unfortunately missed the point. :-))

up to the group but a worthy point.

I am interested to see how other photographers take pictures fences and enclosures. That's the theme of this group: (greeting=social aspect) pictures with fences and enclosures, but not with flower pots in front of doors, city views without fences, cars in parking lots, etc. This should not be difficult.
"Happy Friday FENCE" but not "Happy Friday Flowerpower".
Btw. "Happy Friday Flowerpower" would be a nice new group ;-)

@ Quantity
My wish: one photo per week. More photos can be shown in the form of PiPs. But that is not so important for me.

HFF @ everyone!

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Please note I use my photo each week to know where to start looking for a fence for the Banner for the week. I note that still a lot in Europe up load well before me when I know there is only three others that can upload before me as they are closer than the International date line. any one adding a photo before me that are behind me in time will not get there photos even looked at . I ask you to keep to the agreed conditions of the group I would rather see all the photos up for the count when choosing the Banner as it "Our"photo for the week".

www.ipernity.com/group/311821/discuss/192612

Steve

Agree!

merci pour m'avoir effacé du groupe, sans me prevenir !!!
ma faute est certainement parce que j'ai négligé de poster la photo le vendredi,

dommage les copains, c'était sympa d'être avec vous......
vos administrateurs sont pires qu'inquisition catholique, ...... c'est l'inquisition cathodique ou électronique et ce n'est pas drôle.........

merci encore........

Je traduis pour vous le texte de Steve, car personne n'a voulu exclure quiconque ici:

Damir, je ne connais personne qui vous ait retiré du groupe et je vois que vous faites toujours partie de HFF. J'essaie d'aller sur la traduction ici, donc si les choses ne sont pas tout à fait correctes, vous comprendrez peut-être pourquoi. Nous avons pris l'initiative de fermer le groupe du samedi au mercredi, car le groupe est entièrement consacré au vendredi, mais nous l'avons ouvert jeudi - dimanche pour que toutes les contributions du monde entier s'affichent dans leurs fuseaux horaires. C'est plus une tentative de remettre de l'ordre qu'une inquisition, j'ai hâte de voir votre photo dans les temps, comme tout le monde.

Damar I do not know of any one who has removed you from the group and indeed I see you are still part of HFF. I am trying to go on the translation here so if things are not quite right you may see why. We took the step of closing the group Saturday to Wednesday as the group is all about Friday but we have it open thurday - Sunday to fit all the posters in around the world time zones. Its more try to bring back order than an inquisition look forward to seeing your photo in that time like every body else.

I am going to answer Damir with a translation in his langage. Some people feel hurt before trying to understand if there is a bug...

If you translate something into your language and it doesn't make sense try copying and pasting it into a different translation engine it sometimes gives a much better understanding of what was intended

So ends the year 2019 and all the shots from all the people who graced the HFF Banner for the group. I would like to thank each and every one of the people who made there photos available to be used for the benefit of the group.

to all the photographers look forward to a new years 2020 all the very best to every body.

aNNa schramm
aNNa schramm club
Eigentlich ist es ja kein Zaun sondern eine Brücke mit Geländer !!
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Actually it is not a fence but a bridge with railings !
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aNNa schramm
aNNa schramm club
Wieso und warum werden jetzt bereit schon am Donnerstag Bilder in die Gruppe eingestellt ?????????????
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Why and why are pictures already being uploaded to the group on Thursday ????????????????????????????????
31 hours ago.

This was found in the banner group Anna schramm
please reed a very small set of rules.

Nice fence Photos on Friday !
1. 3 photos a week.
2. Post late Thursday night (your Time Zone) or Friday. NOT SATURDAY to WEDNESDAY
3. This a family friendly group no nudity.

this is our group Rules late night Thursday is late night Thursday In "Your time zone" not just Europe's we are a world wide group over many time zones.

what is a fence there is no hard and fast rule on that one yet....

Oh yes I know this, but I mean Thursday in Europe :-))

Anna Thursday late no matter which time Zone is ok, it fits in with the rules. Thursday late is early Europe time but not for us in Oz or NZ so it has to be late Europe time. it is not ok for Europe to put photos in well before NZ or Oz as our time zone will always be first. do the right thing and you can not go wrong.

As this a world wide group and we all face the possible Corona virus as it start to take over the world. I ask you to be aware of your fellow photographers there is a lot of older photographers on this site.

I would hate to loose any of our photographers but to loose them and not know is even worse. I know that my own 92 year old father in NZ is healthy but the virus has yet to reach them but for sure it will in time.

from the administrators of the group please take care and look after your selves its not, its not going to happen is only "when". the world is about to change in a way we just not comfortable with.

all sport played with no spectators .... is that really sport, that's the start of sport here from today.

To all our members please take care and follow advice.

Danke Steve...auch heute noch!

Nur 1 Foto für jeden Freitag finde ich aus genannten Gründen besser und einfacher.
Wichtiger ist mir, dass auf dem Foto der Zaun das bildbestimmende Motiv ist!
Nicht ein schönes Foto wo irgendwo ein Zaun mit drauf ist – wir sind eine Foto-Gemeinschaft.
Was alles ein gültiger „Zaun“ ist würde ich so definieren:
Es ist eine körperliche Abtrennung die Flächen von einander trennt, keine Trennlinie auf der Straße.
Zu den Begriff „Zäune“ würde ich weit auslegen. Also auch Geländer, Tore, Türen aber keine Tore und Türen von Gebäuden. Die Größe des „Zaun“ von der Chinesischen Mauer bis zu kleinen Zäunen an Wegen oder Beet-Umrandungen.
Eine gute Definition halte ich für jede Gruppe wichtig. Sie gibt den Mitglieder eine Orientierung und den Admins eine Grundlage für Entscheidungen.
Im Zweifel sollte sollte die Vielfalt der „Zäune“ wichtiger als die Definition sein.

Da bin ich ganz bei Dir. Ich finde auch, dass nur ein Foto (pro Mitglied) jeden Freitag die Wertigkeit erhöht, wobei der Zaun nicht unbedingt das Hauptmotiv sein muss, aber er sollte gut und als Zaun zu erkennen sein.

Das ist auch meine Meinung! Allerdings haben sich in der langen Zeit, als diese Gruppe einen inaktiven Admin hatte, einige "Freiheiten" eingebürgert, die wegen des "Gruppenfriedens" kaum rückgängig gemacht werden können (s. Diskussionen oben).

All this has been discussed through and out before:

www.ipernity.com/group/311821/discuss/189404

There are good reasons why "creative freedom" on the choice of subject should not be limited. There are also good reasons why more than one contribution per week was set. But if you indeed fill the quota of 16 contributions per month allowed, then consider posting for example only 10 per month. If you stubbornly try to cling on some of your personal right of being able to post exactly three contributions every week, then this is not the right group for you.

17 months ago It was also more or less agreed who were willing to take over this group. Volunteers were asked to take over, and they were chosen. And they are now whom you should respect.

@ All - Please respect the group administration. Constructive feedback is fine. But if the group is not what you like, then find a better one, or start a group of your own.

And remember the 'Guide of good conduct': www.ipernity.com/about/guidelines

The number of possible contributions is quite sufficient for me. I do not even manage 1 picture per week.
But I still wish myself the greatest possible artistic freedom. I don't care if the fence is the dominant element of the picture or just an accessory. Even a snail fence would make me smile as a creative contribution! (Such a thing may not look like a fence, but it is called that.) So give it to me. Because in the title of this group is the word 'Happy'. Thus one may also laugh about artistically individual contributions. Or shouldn't we?

After some ipernity mail correspondence with HFF group admins, I have only my personal opinion to say here:

1) I totally agree on what Bernhard says. So, don't worry, be happy...

2) If some people seem to get worried that people are leaving the group for some reason, no need to worry either. Maybe it then makes someone else interested to join. Especially this time of the year on the northern hemisphere is less active than usually. Even if many of us are pensioners, people have still used to have a summer vacation, and they are therefore having a vacation also from internet.

3) Bear in mind that sometimes quality is better than quantity. So, one contribution per week can be better than many. Even if the group allows more, it does not mean one should upload many. More images there are posted per a group member every Friday, more images there are to look through for others. And that can be exhausting. So, instead I suggest using those picture in picture (PiP) notes for extra. Or put the other images into image caption. If your account does not allow you post PiPs or images on notes, then add them as URL links onto comments. Then those who do like to see more from some member, can have that option. And those who do wish to browse through all contributions by all members, can have that option.

Please note I think there is a Bug in the system. I have opened HFF at my usual time but its closed for what ever reason. I can not open the group any more it only stays closed. I have asked for help so at this point we will just have to wait but this way you know something is being done.

Ich habe heute (11.3.2022 0:21 Uhr) dasselbe Problem.
kann es sein, das genau 7 x 24 Stunden vergehen müssen, damit man wieder in die Gruppe kommt?

I am also unable to add a photo to the group (UK 2330 GMT 10 March 2022)

Added my image OK, but on Friday 11th March 2022

Please note The group we close off other wise we find people putting in fences any time of the week. As I live in Australia close to the international date line on thursday evening if you try to post a photo before I open you will not be able to. follow those times around the world you should not have a problem. as yet I have only had one snag cause by the internet provider.

or Friday (Your time zone). NOT SATURDAY to THURSDAY
PLEASE NOTE: Photos added after the weekly "STOP" sign and those posted out of time on THURSDAY NIGHT "YOUR LOCAL TIME" will simply be removed.

Not likely to get many volunteers for this job, as we can see from the hassle you get, its simply too much for the normal person. - Good luck!

I can join as admin if you want me to.

Guten morgen zusammen, wollte eigentlich eine Diskussion eröffnen, scheint nicht zu gehen oder ich sehe es zu dieser frühen Stunde nicht.
Gestern ein Bild in die Gruppe eingestellt und stelle fest, gnadenlos gelöscht (Wilfrieds Erben?).
OK, Blick in die Regeln, Hochladen am Donnerstag erst nach 23.30 Uhr. Hmmm, das ist mir zu spät ihr Lieben, Vorschlag 20 Uhr. Viele sind berufstätig, ich stehe um 4.30 Uhr auf, heute eine Ausnahme. Dann erst nach Feierabend die Möglichkeit, aber man hat noch andere Sachen zu tun.
Das sollte hier Spaß sein, nicht so engstirnig und bierernst. Man will doch nur seine Kollegen grüßen, mir geht es nicht um die Chancengleichheit.
Aber gut, das entscheiden die Admins.
Gruß Uwe

its simple then put photo in on Friday. If you look at your phone it will tell you its Friday right time to have a photo in for HFF.

Danke für den netten Tipp :-/

Not quite up to Wilfrieds standards Uwe!
The rules are clearly stated on the 'About this Group' panel. Maybe they will change some day but until that happens we all try to abide with them no matter our personal circumstances.

Das schrieb ich ja, Herb, das ich es nach dem Löschen gelesen habe. Manchmal finde ich, sollte man aber auch ein wenig Fingerspitzengefühl walten lassen, das Löschen eines Fotos finde ich als Bestrafung. Ich bin beruflich noch gebunden und morgens um 5 Uhr schaue ich lieber bei einem Kaffee die neuesten Bilder an. Abends ist der HFF schon gelaufen.
Die Bitte geht nur darum, vielleicht ein wenig die Zeit nach vorn zu lockern.
Ansonsten werde ich mich an die Regeln halten oder eben keins einstellen. Wie Bernhard es formulierte, das Wort HAPPY sollte Sinnbild dieser Gruppe sein.
Gruß Uwe