1 Mars 2017 [EN] [FR]

D'accord!

Thank you for the update.
What will happen with IP till then ......

Thank You

Thanks for the update. So there is no shutdown date for now and we can be sure you will warn us some weeks before, if there should be unfortunately one?

Thanks for that, but a roadmap of some kind would be useful with regards the negotiations.

Also, what is your 'Plan B' if the IMA and Team Ipernity don't reach an agreement?

We know that no buyers are waiting in the wings so what can we expect from you if the IMA bid fails other than logging on one day to find the site has disappeared?

If if the project fail, we will inform all users by a general email.
We are also still in touch with the people of archiveteam to help them to archive ipernity if the website were to shutdown.
Let's cross our finger it won't happen.

Thanks for the update William. Much appreciated. It's really nice for us the members to be informed with updates on present negotiations

Thank you William.

Thanks very much William for giving us an update from the IMA side of things ... much appreciated indeed! :)

many thanks for the news, William!

Thankyou Willaim

Thanks William.

grand Merci pour les nouvelles

Thanks, William and special thanks to Team Ipernity/ Ipernity S.A. for hanging in there and working with IMA to hopefully save Ipernity!

Thank you for the information.

Thank you for the Latest news.

Thank you Team Ipernity for the update!!
And Thanks William for some extra info!!

I copy Ceropegia's special thanks to Team Ipernity & Ipernity S.A. for hanging in there and for working so hard to save ipernity!!!!

Thanks to all who have been working on this process -- we give you our support !

At least it feels great to be here on first of march. ;-)

Grazie!

merci,,, car certaines personnes s'impatient,, ,,,

Un grand merci :-)

... probably there are many silently waiting and watching ... but certainly thanks to all for hard work and progress thus far ...

We believe in you!!!!

merci .....on croise les doigts !!

Thank you William and Team ipernity for the update! It's good to still be online into March. Hopefully the process won't be too long, and we will all know where we stand as members of ipernity.

This update from Team ipernity, and the further information from William, were much appreciated! Thank you all for working so hard in an attempt to save ipernity. Great job!

super,super!

Onward, upward!

Das hört sich super an, besten Dank für den großartigen Einsatz!

Whee~! Thanks for the update.

Thank you all for the great efforts!

Bonnes nouvelles

Latest news:

www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186660

Formidable, grand merci pour toutes ces bonnes nouvelles et pour tout ce travail fourni ! Cordialement. Jocelyne.

D´accord !!!!!!!!!!

merci William pour tout ce que vous faites pour ce site ainsi que ceux qui vous ont accompagné ******************
bon WE

Thanks for the update. :)

keep on trucking team

Thank you ♡

Many many thanks to William and the team...

Merci pour ces informations , nous attendons la suite. Merci à vous

Merci pour l'info et bonne réussite !!

Million thanks for the information we were all expecting !! Wish William and the Ipernity a well-deserbed week-end:

Merci pour tout ce travail et nous attendons la suite avec impatience ...Longue Vie à Ipernity ...!!!
By Danilo.

Thanks to all those working hard behind the scenes and for the update. It means such a lot to hear that something is happening.

Couldn't have said it any better, David !

Blog www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186298

Up Date From Eric
Eric Desjours
04/03/2017 news: Ipernity SA said to get in touch with us this weekend (4-5/03/2017) to give their point of view regarding our offer.
At this hour we are still waiting for their communication. As soon as it is known, we will consult each other then indicate you the terms and implications.

Ipernity SA has always been positive regarding our project and always wished to make our points of view coincide. That's all we can say right now.

Thanks Tess for the update.

Thank you Tess for this latest news.

merci @ IMA et @ la team pour tout ce travail !!!

meri pour votre implication et souhaitons nous bonne chance

Thank you for the update news, Tess.

Thank you for the update, Tess; hopefully we will hear something more very soon.

Very encouraging comments made today in the Ipernity Members Association Project group by William Sutherland:

I remain confident and optimistic there will be a successful restructuring of the Ipernity platform. Because of this, I remain active commenting, moderating in groups requiring this activity and recently posted an article that took time and research, not to mention getting some of my photos I took over the last 10 years and putting them together to present in the article. I would not put in this time and effort if I thought the platform would shut down and everything would be lost.

It is my strong belief that the new Ipernity will be a vibrant and viable platform with a bright, long-term stable future with a loyal membership base ensuring a stronger and more viable platform.

Up Date From Eric
4 Eric Desjours
04/03/2017 news: Ipernity SA said to get in touch with us this weekend (4-5/03/2017) to give their point of view regarding our offer.
At this hour we are still waiting for their communication. As soon as it is known, we will consult each other then indicate you the terms and implications.

Ipernity SA has always been positive regarding our project and always wished to make our points of view coincide. That's all we can say right now.

Up Date From Eric IMA
06/03/2017: this weekend Ipernity SA announced a short delay in their communication to us, for internal logistics reasons. We're expecting it soon.

Latest Update from William / IMA
07/03/2017: IMA received its receipt for filing. This allows IMA to begin business -- open a bank account for CrowdFunding and ultimately running the Ipernity platform. It also means the official certificate will be issued in about 2-3 weeks.

As I do not understand legalities of IMA and IP re: license to operate in France ... it probably isn't, but it seems like red tape like we have in the States ...

''Official certificate'' ... 2-3 wks .. while it sits a desk someplace ?

Just asking ....

Peggy

Merci pour votre travail apprécié !

Legalities take time. No matter how simple the issue seems to be. Selling a house. Probating a will. Sale of a business and whatever else. Legal contracts between parties does involve a lot of time. That's Life.

Thank you, BZ -- makes sense.

"The heart and soul and creativity celebrated on sites like this will go with those who cannot or will not pay that high fee"-omg,what a bunch of crap.

This negativity coming from you from the first day is really incredible.
Dont worry,it will be easier for us/them when we know you wish us luck.
Au revoir.

Very well said Marko !!

l am supporting the IMA Team. I appreciate all your efforts to date to save this IP/IMA site. The Truth is if you guys / girls were not active in your commitments too find a way forward The ship would sink.

Having said that it is going to be so important if and when the deal is finalized how you structure the new IMA site. In particular how the IMA will put an affordable layering system too allow the possibility that all or most members can contribute financially to the site.

Just my opinion and I know I am not on my one with this outlook.

I totally agree with you!

www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186298
Latest Update
07/03/2017: IMA received its receipt for filing. This allows IMA to begin business -- open a bank account for CrowdFunding and ultimately running the Ipernity platform. It also means the official certificate will be issued in about 2-3 weeks.

Thank you Ipernity Team for this updated information.

A step in the right direction... Congratulations, Udo!

www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186298/comment/50234040#comment50234040
Latest Update

William Sutherland
09/03/2017: IMA and Ipernity S.A. are close to an agreement. I'm hopeful it will be attained sometime tomorrow. If so, the terms will be published here. Please know that the agreement if finalized is aimed at meeting the best interests of the Ipernity platform, IMA and the platform's members' interests.

In anticipation, IMA will be establishing a bank account in France and opening a Paypal account to facilitate revenue receipts and payment of operating expenses. IMA also anticipates the start of a CrowdFunding campaign early next week and once it is underway, daily updates will be given. Please know, it is critical people contribute as soon as possible without delay when CrowdFunding is underway since a decision will have to be made within about 2 weeks whether to continue to the platform into April. The combined March and April costs are approximately 10,000 € (Amazon in agreement with Ipernity S.A. allowed the platform to operate this month with expectation that the payments will be made in April).

In addition, please be aware that annual operating expenses for the Ipernity platform are approximately 66,000 €. This does not provide any funds for contingency reserves, future obligations, platform upgrades (for example, future conversion to https protocol as some have suggested), rate increases or other unanticipated expenses or shortfalls. Nevertheless, a stable club membership base near the reported membership figure is more than sufficient to maintain viability and offer a bright long-term future.

IMA thanks everyone for their patience, input, ideas and efforts to keep this site running and for your assistance to ensure a successful CrowdFunding campaign.

This is good news indeed. Hopefully the undertaking that the terms of the proposed agreement are to be published will set people's minds at rest. Let's hope that the hard work and dedication of the IMA members and others who have brought this promising position about will be rewarded by an enthusiastic and prompt response from the Ipernity members who have kept faith.

!!!! Good to read this ;)

Hi Mick
I am not personally suggesting anything when I posted the update on IMA/ IP. I was only giving the latest update to members who read the bloggs.
But this I will say I totally agree with you regarding "sounds like pay today and the site could still fail, hardly a positive way of raising funds. " And your second point " The stable club membership will drop the the when subs are more than doubled".
My battle cry has been all along that if the IMA do not tier the system to allow members to pay subscription according to their own personal financial situation they will , as you said drop member numbers so small to make the site unsustainable.

I have two questions:

(1) Do our memberships officially expire at the end of this month?

(2) When IMA officially takes over, do I have to pay into crowdfunding in order to keep my membership benefits, or is there a grace period if I cannot contribute at the moment?

Hi Valerie
I don't know yet the answer to your Q1 My suggestion is to email William or any of the IMA Team and ask them to clarify your question.
IMA Team
www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/network

So far as I know the crowdfunding issue is a voluntary situation.

www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186298

William Sutherland
11/03/2017: Ipernity Members Association is now official. The official declaration of IMA was published this morning in Journal Officiel!

3 hours ago. Edited 3 hours ago.

En définitive, on 'reste sur sa faim' !!

Crowdfunding as begun

www.ipernity.com/group/2260604/discuss/186760
13/03/2017: The CrowdFunding campaign as officially begun. Even though the goal is listed at $25,000, we need approximately $30,000. If people honor their survey commitments, we should realize this.

We have approximately 2 weeks to achieve this goal. Even though it is a short time frame, it is achievable if everyone acts with urgency. I just made my own contribution and doubled what I had said I would offer in the survey so that the crowdfunding campaign begins with a good start.

The hyperlink for making donations is:

www.generosity.com/community-fundraising/ipernity-members-association-a-non-profit-entity/x/16237256

Please note, Indiegogo decides the method of payment.

These next two weeks will be the most critical and decisive. Starting tomorrow, IMA will provide daily updates as to the progress of the crowdfunding campaign.

Thank you for your support for this worthy cause to keep this unique and great site alive.

Cara Tess,
ho molte perplessità:
questo link
www.generosity.com/community-fundraising/ipernity-members-association-a-non-profit-entity
parla di DONAZIONI e non di abbonamento o reclutamento.
Non è chiaro se veramente si tratta della adesione a una nuova società gestita da IMA.

Inoltre non c'è nessuna comunicazione ufficiale.

The translation from Italian to English has not worked out clearly. What are your doubts to the link???
www.generosity.com/community-fundraising/ipernity-members-association-a-non-profit-entity.

This is just a link to allow IMA to ask to crowdfund and help the IMA to pay for the expenses to continue if the IMA successfully gain control of IP/Sa

The lack of communication which is annoying to everyone is down to IP/SA who are not updating any information of negotiations between them and members of IP and the IMA.

www.generosity.com/community-fundraising/ipernity-members-association-a-non-profit-entity/x/16237256

The link you can use to make a donation.

But not apparently using Paypal! :(

Bonjour

moi j'avais renouveler mon abonnement jusqu'an octobre 2018 et dans ce cas que faire je continue puisque j'ai payer ,, cela peut aider l'association ou non

I'll happily donate to the crowdfunding thing but there's a problem, I'll only use credit/debit cards 'over the counter' so to speak, never on the internet. And worse still, the Generosity by Indiegogo donation page insist on my logging on to Facebook - and I simply don't do Facebook.

So*, find me (and I suspect others too) an alternative way to donate - Paypal would be good.

* please

Hi Tim
Facebook or email
enter email
My email address is what I chose to donate.
Regarding the option to use only by paypal maybe get on the the IMA to see if they can bring in this option.

Hi Tess,
Whether it's FB or email, donations can only be made by credit card, unfortunately.

Agreed I wanted to use my Debit Card which is in my name but I could only pay using my husbands Credit Card Which did not please me. I control the funds in my Debit account keep the amount low should be hacked I could live wiht . But equally I have encouraged my Hubbie to reduce his Credit card available credit to again be a small amount should that be hacked.
Overall I agree with you more choices should have been given to allow people to pay with what system they are comfortable with such as your preference to use Paypal. My daughter will only deal with paypal whenever she can.

Looks like credit cards are the only way at this point. I know some people have been supported by other ipernity members (the others donate for them, then the person paypals directly to that person). Maybe you can find a way to do that. Could even be a person not on ipernity that you know personally.

Just brainstorming here - since we have very little time, I'm not sure they will fix the paypal issue in time (or if they even can).

The balance of subscriptions IP took on promise of refund should also go into the IMA pot.

Hi Roger
It wont IP have reneged on their promise to refund members who have overpaid. They will not be transferring these over payments to the IMA.

je suis OK et merci à ceux qui se sont invertis dans cette action de sauvetage ! reste à savoir le prix de l'abonnement futur !

I have a question, not for me directly: I already made my donation to the crowdfunding.
What will happen with club members who paid their clubmember fee and do not participate on crowdfunding? Will they be allowed here? Will they be refunded of their fees? I offered someone a 2 year membership few days before the closing anouncement...and since then he almost gave up photography and is not willing to participate.
Thanks for your answer...

William Sutherland who is one of the people driving the IMA group which is behind the crowdfunding campaign has said recently that:

At this time, I would recommend not renewing memberships or if you did so, to do it for no more than 1 month."

It has also been mooted that Ipernity SA will not have the funds to reimburse anyone who has 'unused' membership when the transfer or closure takes place despite previously saying they would do so.

This would suggest that there will be no money in the pot when the IMA transfer takes place and therefore they will need to raise as much as they can through crowdfunding and subscriptions for the 'new' platform.

And all of this to me at least suggests that we will need to accept that anything we may have paid to Ipernity SA for future access will be lost and we will need to start afresh. Not an ideal situation, but perhaps preferable to seeing the site close.

It would be helpful if someone from Team Ipernity or the IMA could confirm if I'm right in what I've said and if my conclusions are incorrect then explain exactly what will happen?

As you've rightly pointed out this is an issue that many are concerned about.

thanks for clearly stating this! i am fortunate to be able to continue even if i loose my old membership fees. i know many are not as lucky.

i also know that there are people and plans forming around helping people in need - so please stay around as those transpire.

to those who have the ability to pay the funds and are frustrated and annoyed (and maybe just confused) i suggest that they look at it as Ipernity closing and them starting up at a new site (but without all the hassle of moving their photos, learning a new system and loosing contacts!!).

Well...thanks for all this, Autofantasia.

In the www.ipernity.com/blog/team/4653832?lc=1#comments thread I had this answer from Audrey:

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Audrey d'ipernity respondeu a Xata
Hello,
I do not have a premade answer for your question.
At this very moment, membership aren't taken in account, it is a separated action (done by IMA).
We can imagine that if everything goes as expected, IMA will benefit of the membership once ipernity has been takeover. The whole purpose is to support ipernity for a few more month to let IMA prepare their business plan and submit their offer to the shareholders.
For the people who won't or can't participate for any reasons, it has not been decided yet.

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Thanks for flagging that response from Audrey up. Sounds like we're getting mixed messages here, which has sadly been a recurring theme! :(

This is exactly why I've said repeatedly that they need to communicate more effectively and have a Frequently Asked Questions article/thread. That way people wouldn't keep raising questions that have been raised by others before them or have to rummage around looking for answers amongst the countless threads and comments.

Hopefully, someone from the IMA and/or Team Ipernity will respond to these queries. My own membership runs out in a few weeks time and I'm not at all keen on renewing for 12 months if that money and that subscription is not going to be received/honoured by the IMA when they take over! :(