Greywell Mill, Hampshire

Wonderful capture and lighting! Stay well!

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I hope those are the real colours, and not the usual blue and yellow.

The converging verticals were corrected partially, the sky is Shepperton (the real one was blank, featureless grey) but the rest is exactly 'as was'.

Also, the lead-out top and left are part of the picture - the setting of the building; the Jubilee stuff is incidental.

Roy says the 'lead out' is still there in his version, but with more emphasis on the house.

But nice to see they're not supporting BBC.

Sorry, but in this instance I don't agree with him.

As often happens. You have a strange perspective.

As I say, I corrected the perspective (converging verticals) in PhotoShop as much as possible.

But although I usually agree with Roy - my pictures are normally edited and uploaded the evening I get home from an expedition, by when I'm tired and the editing can get rushed - in this case I don't. The building alone isn't quite interesting enough to dominate the composition completely, but the way I've arranged it (try viewing it from a slightly greater distance) overall the balance and composition are best.

The building is quite lovely, so I don't understand why you want to direct the eye upwards to the grey sky. If you insist on having so much sky above the roof, then you need more path below to balance things out.

Roy's cropping suggestion is aimed at cutting out the superfluous sky to focus the eye slightly lower, as well as cutting off that patchy side of the tree and thus making the flag more central.

I've no idea what your recent correspendence with isisbridge has been about. Can one of you please enlighten us ignoramuses!
I like this shot of what appears to be a particularly 'un-tarted up' old building!

Howard has a habit of importing features from other photos, so I was wondering if this was a genuine English flag and hadn't started out blue and yellow, as many English houses are flying Ukrainian flags at the moment. He also imports skies from what he calls 'Shepperton' (film studios) and erases unsightly TV aerials.

Roy is an imaginary friend, who likes cropping and a lot of 'lead in'.

"Roy Cropper" is a character from Coronation Street, and his name suggests that, photographically, he goes for tight compositions, and likes cropping other people's pictures.

And unsightly cables, satellite dishes, telegraph poles, road markings and signs, parked cars etc. etc. Unusually there were none at all in this picture.

If Roy likes a lot of lead-in then he should do less cropping.

You probably know a different Roy from me, as I don't watch Coronation Street.

My Roy likes plenty of lead-in to focus the eye on the main subject, and he finds that your photos are often rather tight at the bottom (as in this case), so that the eye is directed up at the sky.

The "right" amount of sky and foreground is and will always be a matter of opinion and artistic judgement, and hence in certain cases (as here) we will just have to agree to differ.

I myself use the compositions of John Constable as a guide, and your Roy may well think them likewise too top heavy, and Constable himself had his critics, though to my eye they look exactly "right". It may be the case that in later schools of art (e.g. the Impressionists) more foreground and less sky were the norm.

The difference is that Constable has interesting cloudscapes, whereas you are leading the eye to plain grey. I would fave this, if cropped, as I like the pink roses, flag and bunting... Perhaps you could do a special version just for me, so that I can have it displayed on my homepage?

Very pleasing. Thank you. Roy likes it too!

Thanks for posting your wonderful picture to

www.ipernity.com/group/buildings

Gentlemen, you have far exceeded my limited mental capacity and, having strayed very briefly in, I would now rather like to leapfrog straight out smartish and leave you two to it! The best of British to you both!

Who are these gentlemen of which you speak? I am certainly no gentleman!

Apologies and yes, I think I made that error a few years ago too! I can only blame sunstroke (temps up to 41ºC!

I'm sure the judge will take that into account. Weather like that should be banned.

most beautiful
Happy new week:)