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Removed Why?

posted by Rachel's Runway
Posted on Tuesday December 30, 2008 at 12:10. 283 visits. ( permalink )
Can anyone give me a good reason why this photograph has been removed from the group.
In the City UK

17 Replies

Ulrich says:
I have removed it because I do not think it is street photography. What is it that lets you think it belongs to the genre of street photography?
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway says:
It is IN the street?
Poor response from yourself if you don't mind me saying so.
Why is it NOT street?
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway edited this reply 10 months ago.
Ulrich says:
I do not think that the aspect of being made in the street alone qualifies for a photograph to be street photography. I removed it because I think your photograph is just that: Made in the street (and b/w, while we're at it).

At least for me it has nothing special, neither composition, nor moment nor light, etc. that would make me think of it as a typical street photograph.

(I regret but I have to leave after this post but will review the discussion later again, maybe someone else can state some thoughts too...)
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway says:
Well maybe you should now remove 90% of the images in this group. I remind you of the group rules.
"Street photography is a type of documentary photography that usually features PEOPLE in candid situations in PUBLIC PLACES such as STREETS, parks, beaches, malls, political conventions, and OTHER SETTINGS."

It says nothing about "composition" ......."moment" ......"light" .......Black and white?????
For me, my image depicts a modern woman wearing the fashions of the age. She speaks into her mobile phone as she walks, a very contemporary street scene. The composition (no matter what you say) is certainly as good as most shots on here . She contrasts well with the shop window poster, an image that speaks to her and her like. The cobbled streets are symbolic of a bygone era, something the City of York has thankfully preserved for modern generations.
I could go on but if this isn't representative of the rules then I really don't know what is.

Quotes on this photo from flickr..
"The B&W works beautifully with the designer posters behind! "
"Superb b&w really shows every feature"


I remind you of one of your shots
Cameo Appearance

Please explain why this and not mine.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway edited this reply 10 months ago.
sǝɯʎuopnǝsd sǝl sɐd ǝɯıɐ,u dɾ says:
Are people the subject of this photograph ? Or is the subject of this photograph a (pretty) girl in skirt and heels, taken with a tele-lens (in the street) ?
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway says:
For your information I am female. I actually am one of the few to have a proper profile, name included.
I was stood not more than ten metres away and in full view. No tele lens necessary. (Another photograph from the set actually has my reflection in the shop window. )
I'm sorry she is "pretty" and smartly dressed. My apologies.

The scene depicts "modern woman and her relationship with the world" (If you really want me to be pretentious)
I record the streets and fashion in the street, street fashion, hence my title "Runway".

If you have a problem with well dressed women being in the street just say so. Maybe we can stay indoors?

One yours Mr? pseudonymes
On ne rigole pas lors du shopping

Is this ok because the girl in there is ?????? well?
Also, I get a damn sight closer (physically) to my subjects than you.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway edited this reply 10 months ago.
Ulrich says:
@RuN'WaY: Well maybe you should now remove 90% of the images in this group

Come on, give me a break, I already removed some 30% today

Please explain why this and not mine.

I think I did explain. I said At least for me your photograph has nothing special, neither composition, nor moment nor light, etc. that would make me think of it as a typical street photograph.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
A ِِِ says:
I think we have to understand the street fashion is not the same as street photography !
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
A ِِِ says:
fantastic article, thx Ulrich
www.in-public.com/information/what_is
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Rachel's Runway says:
Come on Gaza, your playing with words and you know it.

Ulrich...Your argument / explanation is so short and insipid you know you've lost the plot. So the other 2050 pictures have great composition, light etc,?

Again, read the rules or change them at least.

"Street photography is a type of documentary photography that usually features PEOPLE in CANDID situations in PUBLIC PLACES such as STREETS, parks, beaches, malls, political conventions, and OTHER SETTINGS."

Unless of course they're wearing fashionable clothes and are aestheticly unpleasing to the eye in the eyes of ONE moderator.

Oh! by the way, It was taken in the street therefore it MUST be typical. (cept the B&W of course)
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway edited this reply 10 months ago.
Ulrich says:
So the other 2050 pictures have great composition, light etc,?

Actually I am not so sure about all of them, but actually I am not talking about these here.

And speaking about long, short or even insipid arguments: The only argument I could find from you about why your photograph should be in this pool is 'it is in the street' which I already explained to be not enough at least for me.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Ulrich says:
...and I might have misphrased one of my posts above regarding black and white: I did not mean that there is something wrong with b/w, neither in street photography nor in general.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway says:
The only argument? Are you blind..can't you read? I wrote this:

"For me, my image depicts a modern woman wearing the fashions of the age. She speaks into her mobile phone as she walks, a very contemporary street scene. The composition (no matter what you say) is certainly as good as most shots on here . She contrasts well with the shop window poster, an image that speaks to her and her like. The cobbled streets are symbolic of a bygone era, something the City of York has thankfully preserved for modern generations."
I even quoted other viewers.

Jeez! . Don't give up your day job Ulrich. OR You have another agenda here. I wish you were honest enough to tell us what it is.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Ulrich says:
Your lengthy statement has nothing to do with street photography. That is why I said your only argument was that you state it was taken in the street.

You know, I don't think that personal offence is a good way to discuss. And I do not think that this group is going to work this way. I will not continue here.

I hope you have fun with whatever this group is about and I hope you find a more appropriate name for whatever this might be.
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway says:
Here I am, expecting a well thought out argument, an intelligent discussion and what do I get?..................... "It isn't street photography"... "It isn't street photography"..... "It isn't street photography".... "It isn't street photography" "I don't like the light and composition" Well bully for you.
Sorry if my frustration with you came across as "insults" but ..................well; words almost fail ME now.

I hope you have success with whatever group you start / infiltrate but as "Leader Ulrich" you really will have to be more honest with your evaluation and explanations as to why your throwing people out of your group (me, 3 days ago before all this, no explanation given..thanks for that) and your assessment of members photographs while posting your own (presumably without censorship.) is so dammed inadequate I say this as someone who followed your advice and asked for (at least an adequate) reason why a perfectly good photograph had been banned.
Good bye
Rachel
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
Rachel's Runway edited this reply 10 months ago.
UCwhatIC pro says:
What a confusing discussion. After reading the justifications for removing the pic, I am totally confused as to what kind of pics this group is about. Will you accept a pic of the street with no people in the shot? Once the shot shows someone walking down the street or sidewalk, what judgement is used to determine a worthy "street" shot? The arguments above do nothing to clarify the question in my mind. I find the subject pic to be a perfect example of street photography by most any definition familiar to me. Is the girl too pretty, or too dominate a figure that she draws too much attention away from the "street?" Seriously, I don't get it. It appears to be a perfect example of street photography to me.

I would love to post some street shots of my own, but I don't feel I understand what fits the narrow definition required of this group. If you rejected all such pics it would make more sense. The group is full of similar pics, but worse quality and composition than this one, so I am not able to make any sense out of it. The subject in the photo has model good looks, and blends in with the street scene and billboard behind her. She is part of the street. What is not to like? You ban that pic but leave in a picture of a fire hydrant?
Posted 10 months ago. ( permalink )
UCwhatIC edited this reply 10 months ago.
THE FRENCH EYE says:
pity it was removed ! a handsome b/w pic !nice stting and movement !
Posted 3 months ago. ( permalink )

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