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Posted on 12/14/2017


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Homepage Redesign Study (3)

Homepage Redesign Study (3)
[EN] Revised version of www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45978350 with respect to all comments and suggestions for improvement. (See explanations in the comment.)

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[FR] Version révisée de www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45978350 en ce qui concerne tous les commentaires et suggestions d'amélioration. (Voir les explications dans le commentaire.)

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[DE] Überarbeitete Version von www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45978350 unter Berücksichtigung aller Kommentare und Verbesserungsvorschläge. (Siehe Erläuterungen im Kommentar.)

j-p l'@rchéo, Leon_Vienna, Roger Dodger, diedje and 15 other people have particularly liked this photo


47 comments - The latest ones
ima:
ima:
Developed from version (2):

- optimised cast shadow
- "TM" within the slogan deleted (because of legal reasons)
- buttons "new" and "sign in" graphically adapted to the three main buttons
- links at the bottom of the site underlined
- picture fixed at 1220 x 675
- Copyright symbol instead of wording
- slightly optimised positon of several elements
- more succinct texts below the main buttons
- tautology eliminated

The "story" behind all will be found following the link about. (Not now, only after implementation.)

(Picture "Sunrise" by Don Sutherland: www.ipernity.com/doc/285547/27459499)
12 months ago. Edited 12 months ago.
Pam J
Pam J
The best ...
12 months ago.
Pano ☼ Rapi ♫✯♫
Pano ☼ Rapi ♫✯♫
Ok, I like it ! Thanks to all..
12 months ago.
Jaap van 't Veen
Jaap van 't Veen
OK for me !!
12 months ago.
Manu
Manu
Great :-)
12 months ago.
StoneRoad2013
StoneRoad2013
I like this.
12 months ago.
Pierre Florisoone
Pierre Florisoone
OK pour moi
Salutation !!
12 months ago.
HappySnapper
HappySnapper
The sort of photograph that will appeal to many new or seasoned photographic hobbyist, I like it.
12 months ago. Edited 12 months ago.
DOMCHO
DOMCHO
Une photo accrocheuse et c'est le but
Ok
12 months ago.
Gisela Plewe
Gisela Plewe
Ich würde mir wünschen, dass das Aufmacherfoto öfter gewechselt wird.
Sonnenuntergänge sind zwar schön und sprechen emotional die meisten Menschen, aber nicht unbedingt anspruchsvolle Fotofreaks an. Für diese wäre der Anreiz größer, sich mit ipernity zu befassen, wenn auch ästhetische Titelfotos erscheinen, die erkennbar konzeptionell entstanden sind.
12 months ago.
Pano ☼ Rapi ♫✯♫ has replied to Gisela Plewe
Zeitlich befristete kleine Auswahl von ip-Bildern mit Anwahlmöglichkeit ... ? :),
Von jedem Kontinent eines.
12 months ago. Edited 12 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to Gisela Plewe
Hallo Gisela!
Genau so ist es gedacht! (Wenn wir genug Material zusammenbekommen, kann das Foto gerne täglich wechseln - und jahreszeitlich sowieso.)
Die Crux ist allerdings, dass wir alle beim "normalen" Fotografieren andere Maßstäbe an den Bildaufbau anlegen, als man es für solche Advertising-Zwecke tun müsste. (Mich eingeschlossen!)
Aber: Wir alle könnten das ja als Challenge auffassen! Soll heißen: Ab und zu mal den Bildaufbau ganz gezielt so wählen, dass ein gutes Bild für die Frontpage dabei entsteht. So wie man für ein Banner auch ganz anders fotografieren muss. (Oder unsere Archive durchforsten, ob sich geeignete Ausschnitte herstellen lassen.)
Ich bin mir sicher, dass unsere Community in der Hinsicht viel kreatives Potenzial hat!
12 months ago. Edited 12 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to Pano ☼ Rapi ♫✯♫
Eine Anwahlmöglichkeit müsste sich wohl realisieren lassen.
Allerdings wäre das eine Umgehung des "normalen" Einstiegs über die Buttons.
Wenn das keine Folgeprobleme macht, spricht nichts dagegen.
12 months ago.
Boarischa Krautmo has replied to Gisela Plewe
Das Problem ist, so ein Titelfoto ist eher eine Gebrauchsgrafik - es darf nicht zu unruhig sein, sollte farblich mit dem Text harmonieren/kontrastieren, oben rechts muss ein Viertel des Bildes "frei" sein, damit der Text platziert werden kann.....
Selbst ein (alleine betrachtet) sehr gutes Foto kann schnell dazu führen, daß die Titelseite "stümperhaft" wirkt.
12 months ago.
Gisela Plewe has replied to Bergfex
Fantastisch, dass das alles schon bedacht ist! Das ist wieder mal ein Grund, dem ima-Team für für das Engagement und die große Sorgfalt in den Planungen zu danken.
Ich bin ganz sicher, dass die Mitglieder eine entsprechende Herausforderung mit Eifer annehmen.
12 months ago.
M♥rJ Photogr♥phy !!… has replied to Bergfex
+1
12 months ago.
madSec has replied to Bergfex
Spricht etwas dagegen, bei genug vorhandenem Material natürlich, eine Auswahl von sagen wir fünf Bildern durchwechseln zu lassen? Ich denke eine Slideshow bringt Bewegung in die Seite, statische Seiten wirken heutzutage schnell altbacken.

Ich werde mal mein Archiv durchschauen ob ich Bilder finde die für die Frontseite geeignet wären. Theoretisch könnte man mit Zugriff auf das Bilderarchiv der Webseite sogar einen automatisierten Suchprozess durchführen um Bilder zu finden die zur Frontseite passen würden.
12 months ago.
Pano ☼ Rapi ♫✯♫ has replied to madSec
Eine Bedienungsanleitung für die Diashow für Vollansicht erleichtert den Zugang allgemein, besonders für die "Explorer", steigert die "Neugier".
12 months ago.
dgmphoto
dgmphoto
Clean, simple and clear in meaning. I think this is good.
12 months ago.
@ngélique ♥
@ngélique ♥
superbe oui ! j'adhère ! merci à vous
12 months ago.
Boarischa Krautmo
Boarischa Krautmo
das sieht gut aus so.
12 months ago.
* ઇઉ *
* ઇઉ *
Again a great job, Bernhard, and overall good visual appearance, even I prefer pictures like "Frontpage Picture Example (3)". However, the formulations are now a bit too sober and stiff (too "distanced"). For this reason, I'd like to encourage a reconsideration of the wording, bearing in mind Clint's proposals: www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45978350/comment/52726208#comment52726208
12 months ago.
ima: has replied to * ઇઉ *
Hi * ઇઉ *,
thank you for the link above! Referring to the wording of the previous release it's absolutely correct. That's why it has been revised. The actual, more succinct wording has been puzzled out together with the native speakers of the ima-team (William, Pam).

Concerning the three main buttons let me point out that *explore* and *free trial* are completey different things. The *explore*-button will lead directly to the existing www.ipernity.com/explore.
It’s for external visitors without registration (no comments, no uploads, no galleries, etc.)

The *trial*-button will lead to the existing www.ipernity.com/subscribe. By this means a visitor may create a temporary trial account with access to all functions.

Concerning *ima*: There isn't any intention of rebranding. *ima* is the "rescue club" and the technical operator of the website only. The brand *ipernity* is well known and will persist because of many reasons. But maybe the meaning will change a little bit. In the future ipernity might be more than only a website or a platform. It might be recognised as the whole community.
(Only snatches of ideas. It will be a process and a long way.......)
12 months ago. Edited 12 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to ima:
Hi Bernhard (?),
many thanks for the detailed comments, but they should be addressed to Clint ( www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45978350/comment/52726208#comment52726208 ), since I personally have no problems with the three main buttons and *ima*. ;)

Secondly, my own concerns about the wording don't go in the same direction as Clint's, since I assumed that ima team native English speakers were involved in the wording of this newest draft.

In my view, the revised wording is very good, but now it's just a little too "sober". But that's just my personal, non-binding opinion.

I'm aware that it will be a process and a long way to go, and I wish you and all of us the necessary strength, stamina and patience for it.

Have a great weekend.
12 months ago.
John Sheldon
John Sheldon
The wording of the English version still seems to be a sticking point.

May I suggest some ideas based on the newest proposals?

Explore: Explore ipernity, with access to all pictures, galleries and groups.

Explore: Explore ipernity, with access to all entries, galleries and groups.

Free Trial: Try all that ipernity has to offer for a test period.

Free Trial: Experience all that ipernity has to offer for a test period.

Membership: Enjoy being part of the ipernity community as a member.

Membership: Enjoy being part of the ipernity community as a full member.

Membership: Become a member and enjoy the ipernity community permanently.
12 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to John Sheldon
Thank you, John, that's very close to what I mean. Short and concise and yet very inviting, appealing, rounded - flowing like a wonderful "melody".
12 months ago.
Boarischa Krautmo has replied to John Sheldon
maybe for membership only: Be part of the/our community?
12 months ago.
Marko Novosel
Marko Novosel
Links to similar photo sharing sites.
500px.com
www.smugmug.com
www.blipfoto.com
www.instagram.com
www.flickr.com

We dont have to invent anything,everything is already invented,something from old ipernity,from smug,some from blip and thats it...but why shades?
Shades are so old and off,nobody is using it for years,letters with shades are for children birthdays.
12 months ago.
Boarischa Krautmo has replied to Marko Novosel
yes, there are a few other photo sites - but why not being different?
Regarding the shadows you might be right.
12 months ago.
Marko Novosel has replied to Boarischa Krautmo
Yes,dont get me wrong,different is very important and we are,but we also have to be modern.
There is a reason why 100 best companies in the world or best brands dont have shadow on their logos...its not working.
12 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Marko Novosel
I think, not because it's modern, but because simply looks fresher, the lettering should be without shadows.
11 months ago.
ima: has replied to Marko Novosel
Hi Marco!
There isn't any intend to add a shadow to the brand label. It will stay untouched, not only of legal reasons - as it is registered as shown. Keeping the trademark unchanged is some kind of commitment for continuity.
Our one and only problem is to keep the slogan in front of the picture well readable. (What Flickr does in this regard, is very poor.)
Bernhard (ima)
11 months ago.
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… has replied to Marko Novosel
Just 3 days ago I read an article about webdesign - trends for 2018 which are telling the "flat internet design" will be more and more out and hover-animations, shadows and visually feedback for the users are the trend for 2018. ;-) In german language: t3n.de/news/webdesign-trends-2018-885197

So I would like the desired version, even with that shadow. But maybe switch the color of the shadow so it´s not challenging with a given color of the photo - I suggest in this example a silver "shadow" might be working pretty well with this darkened orange background by the photo. So the shadow shouldn´t always be just black/darkgrey.
11 months ago.
Marko Novosel has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°…
Hello Kiez,its very simple,just put in google 100 best companies and logos in the world and look for the shadow.
11 months ago.
Manu
Manu
> Explore: Explore ipernity, with access to all pictures, galleries and groups.

That is not true: Explore [= no login] has access to the pictures that are uploaded as ' Visible by: Everyone'.

'Access' shouldn't be part of the description of 'Explore' - that will also make the difference to the Free trial easier to understand


=> "Explore: Browse ipernity's public pictures, galleries and groups."
12 months ago.
John Sheldon has replied to Manu
Yes, Manu, I wondered about this. My suggestions were merely following the implication in the ima proposal. Perhaps 'Explore ipernity with access to our pictures, galleries and groups' would be better - there is no need to bore visitors with details about items that are 'publicly' available and those that are not, this distinction would be information overload for someone who is just a visitor.
12 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to Manu
Maybe the limitation to the last 200 pictures might fall away someday?
Such a barrier isn't contemporary any more. There is room for improvement. Why not open the content for the benefit as well of the members as of the public? Maybe the goal of such a rule might be fullfilled more appropriate by other measures . . .
10 months ago.
Manu
Manu
Membership: Join our independent community of artists and enthusiasts
12 months ago.
Boarischa Krautmo has replied to Manu
skip the " artists and enthusiasts" - the remaining text will do ;-)
12 months ago.
John Sheldon
John Sheldon
Following Manu's comment, I now suggest:

Explore: Explore ipernity, with access to our pictures, galleries and groups.

Explore: Explore ipernity, with access to our entries, galleries and groups.

Free Trial: Try all that ipernity has to offer for a test period.

Free Trial: Experience all that ipernity has to offer for a test period.

Membership: Enjoy being part of the ipernity community as a member.

Membership: Enjoy being part of the ipernity community as a full member.

Membership: Become a member and enjoy the ipernity community permanently.
12 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to John Sheldon
Thanks again, John!

Based on a recommendation from Manu, I think your suggestions would be worthy of note.

However, regarding "Membership", I suggest:

Membership: Enjoy being part of our community.
12 months ago.
ima:
ima:
Hi all!
Thank you for your continuative ideas. They will be balanced to find the best solution finally.
Bernhard (ima)
11 months ago.
ima:
ima:
We'll work on it! The major problem - even not solved by Flickr (!!!) - is to keep the inscription well readable in front of different backgrounds.
Bernhard (ima)
11 months ago.
ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°… has replied to ima:
This is something which has to do by manual work, and can´t be done by an automatic routine with the use of the same CSS for each photo. So you have to edit the uploaded photos in gimp/photoshop and set the slogan by hand, then it would be an easy task to get it readable as you can chose the colors right comparing to the given photo and his colors. But you can´t get it as functional as it has to be if the photo was sometimes by priority in light and sometimes in dark colors.
11 months ago.
ima: has replied to ୱ Kiezkickerde ( ͡°…
Hallo Stefan!
Dass sich eine manuelle "Finalisierung" wohl nicht umgehen lässt, schwant mir auch. Aber da der Pool verwendbarer Fotos sowieso eine Moderation bzw. Administration braucht, kommt es darauf dann auch nicht mehr an. (Man macht halt einmal einen Variantenset auf Vorrat und ordnet später fallweise die passende Variante zu, oder? Den Tool dafür soll uns die Software-Schmiede machen, die den Auftrag zur Implementierung bekommt.)
Bernhard (ima)
(Danke übrigens für den Link oben! Um den Trend zu den grellen Farben in natura zu bewundern, muss man nur mal auf die website der Photokina gehen: www.photokina.de )
11 months ago. Edited 11 months ago.
Bergfex
Bergfex
Thank you for the inspiring discussion.
Finalizing the draft I'll adopt the following:
- Explore ipernity, with access to our entries, galleries and groups.
- Experience all that ipernity has to offer for a test period.
- Enjoy being part of our community as a member.
(Let's avoid avoid "full member" to keep the door open for any differentiation . . ., sometimes. . ., perhaps. . .)
10 months ago. Edited 10 months ago.
Elbertinum
Elbertinum
na - ja - Sonnenuntergang ist mir zu wenig -
oder ist das Sonnenaufgang -
10 months ago.