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Homepage Redesign Study (2)

Homepage Redesign Study (2)
[EN] Revised version of www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45656792 with respect to all comments and suggestions for improvement. You're invitetd to mention further aspects, which have not yet been covered by the previous discussions.

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[FR] Version révisée de www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45656792 en ce qui concerne tous les commentaires et suggestions d'amélioration. Vous êtes invité à mentionner d'autres aspects qui n'ont pas encore été couverts par les discussions précédentes.

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[DE] Überarbeitete Version von www.ipernity.com/doc/team/45656792 unter Berücksichtigung aller Kommentare und Verbesserungsvorschläge. Ihr seid herzlich eingeladen, weitere Aspekte einzubringen, die in den vorhergehenden Diskussionen möglicherweise übersehen wurden.

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52 comments - The latest ones
Gudrun
Gudrun
Looks good to me, compliments and thank you!
9 months ago.
Xata, stargazing...
Xata, stargazing...
Same remark as for the white background of our pages... IMHO and I know now that I am a minority, a medium grey would be more elegant and suitable for photo than this rough clinical white.
I prefer the previous version you proposed, no doubt it was more classy.
This one really disappoints me...
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
ima:
ima:
Hi Xata!
I know your opinion. It's mine, too. But even as the creator of this redesign study and process leader I had to yield the majority. I did it with a heavy heart . . .
Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Xata, stargazing... has replied to ima:
It is difficult sometimes not to think as the majority...
9 months ago.
Jaap van 't Veen has replied to ima:
Sincerely hope it will stay it is.
9 months ago.
William Sutherland
William Sutherland
Beautiful redesigned front page!

Admired in:
www.ipernity.com/group/tolerance
9 months ago.
* ઇઉ *
* ઇઉ *
Top, even though I would also prefer a medium grey background.
But one question. A three-month trial period, isn't that a little long? Normally, a maximum of 14 days is granted. My recommendation would therefore be a test period of no more than one month.
Anyway, a really great job, Bernhard. Many thanks to you and the IMA team!
9 months ago.
ima: has replied to * ઇઉ *
Hi * ઇઉ * !
Let's focus on the design here and regard the "3 month" as a wildcard here. The membership differentiation is a very complex topic, which will be discussed separately next year.
Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to ima:
Okay, thank you, Bernhard.
9 months ago.
dgmphoto
dgmphoto
Looks good to me. Thank you for all the time you are spending.
9 months ago.
Manu
Manu
Almost there :-)

– 'news' and 'sign in' should not look like buttons, they are links. They could be styled like the 3 big links further down (light blue background with a darker shade)

– If there is a button next to the search field it should be called 'search'

– 'more than simply photo sharing...' -> what I'm reading is: it's not simple.
I can't come up with THE slogan right now, but I'm confident that somebody will.

"member owned" sounds too clumsy, but it's what makes ipernity special.

– Change 'Copyright: Leo W.' to '© Leo W.'

– I agree that the trial period should be shorter. 14 days, or maybe 1 month. Shorten the text to "Test all functions ..."?

– Membership: "Enjoy the complete offer" is not clear to me.

– I'd put more white space above the horizontal line at the bottom. Maybe the same distance as below the big photo?

Thank you everybody who is working for the future of ipernity <3

[The photo you are using is a bit wider than 1220x680]
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
ima: has replied to Manu
Hi Manu!
"news" and "sign in" are buttons. You have to click onto them to get (1) directly to the team blog with the news and (2) to the log-in site. (1) might appear in a signal colour, when news are on hand. The "search"-frame isn't a button, but a frame to write in directly.
The title is the result of the very complex discussion with many contributes. (One half of the participants wanted to write down everything here. The other half remembered to the KISS principle. Some did it suchlike forcefully, that the result was completely characterless at the end.) The decision was influenced by Stephen Covey's method of finding a creative alternative, if a compromise isn't possible because the positions are contradicting. And it follows the AIDA principle, not to give descriptions or answers while advertising, but to make people curious. / Copyright: good idea. / Period: will be decided next year. / Membership: Better proposal? / Space: Will be regarded. / Photo size: This is a Photoshop draft only. There still are some more inaccuracies, like the cast shadow. It's not the final version, which will be made very precisely by a professional agency with adequate tools.
Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Manu
Agreeing to the proposed amendment of the copyright notice.
9 months ago.
HappySnapper
HappySnapper
Much better, short and to the point, arouses shop window interest.
Re trial membership time, I agree with others and three months is to long to let a prospective customer browse the shop. I think one month is plenty for a trial.
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
ima: has replied to HappySnapper
To all:
Don't get stuck at the 3 months, please. The period isn't important for the design. It will be discussed again and finally decided separately next year.
Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Manu
Manu
Hi Bernhard

> are buttons

No. A button = a function, like "start search"

What you describe is a link = go to another page
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to Manu
Ok. But such a subtle differenciation is more important for the programmer as for the normal user. (From that point of view the three major buttons are also links, because they transmit to subsites.) As far as I know the Web Content Accessability Guidelines didn't make constrictions concerning that matter under the aspect of design, but only how it should be realized technically. Be assured, that the agency will encode everything professionally.
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Jaap van 't Veen
Jaap van 't Veen
Looks fine for me.
In the future we will be "ima member" instead of "Ipernity Club member" ??
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Be◉bachter has replied to Jaap van 't Veen
Jaap ,
"ima member" is a little bit tautologically, because m stands for member.
9 months ago.
mapgraphs
mapgraphs
Thank you to all involved. It is an elegant solution.

Background colors are subjective, white, light, medium, dark gray, black... With lots of opinions weighing in, so it's usually best to stick to an existing convention, in this case the white background.

The search field should have a Search button (or magnifying icon or such).

If the three labels – Explore, Free Trial and Membership are clickable (i.e. “buttons”) then the News and Sign In should be the same color (choose a style and apply it consistently). (The ipernity medium blue looks elegant on the white background.)

Slogans... Everyone is going to offer opinions such as change “More than simply photo sharing” to “more than photo sharing” or “A community of photographers, artists and writers” or whatever... Perhaps consider a slide show where photos *and slogans* can change?

The text below the three labels needs a little wordsmithing, ...don't really need to say “whole world” “world” would suffice, “all entries” probably would be better as “member” entries – or “offerings” - there's just some awkward phrasing that can be smoothed out. (I think I want to see the language used to be as succinct and elegant as the layout design – which means elegant translations as well ; - )

Designing by committee is not an easy task, but this is obviously an excellent team effort! Thanks again!
9 months ago.
Manu
Manu
> slogan

The slogan/catch phrase needs to tell me why I should pay for ipernity instead of using flickr's (= yahoo's) free space.

I'm sure we'll get there.
9 months ago.
ima: has replied to Manu
Hi Manu!

Most of all a slogan has to make accidental visitors curious! Under advertising aspects it has to explain nothing. It's one and only purpose is to motivate people to click deeper into the site.

Remember the Marlborow cowboy! Within his last years even the brand wasn't mentioned in advertisements.

Or as a current example BMW:
"Freude am Fahren" = "Pleasure of driving"
"Der Anspruch von morgen" = "The standard of tomorrow"

Nothing will be explained by such slogans.
But they are very successful:
BMW is one of the most favourable brands, same as Apple is with mobiles.

Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago.
Jaap van 't Veen has replied to ima:
Agree with the present slogan. Think it is triggering somebody's curiosity.
9 months ago.
Manu
Manu
ipernity

join our independent community
of artists and enthusiasts

[either as slogan or under ‘Membership]
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Roger Dodger
Roger Dodger
The team efforts are very much appreciated, it will all come out fine in the end; looking good so far!
9 months ago.
ROL/Photo
ROL/Photo
Merci pour vos travaux ... le final.. sera parfait.. je n'en doute pas..
alors Messieurs bonne continuation.. dans ce sens ..!
9 months ago.
Katja
Katja
Ich finde, das sieht Aufgeräumt und Übersichtlich aus.
Einladend... für jemanden der es nicht kennt.
Was würde sich denn hinter "News" verbergen?!
9 months ago.
ima: has replied to Katja
Hi Katja!
Wenn z.B. hier im Blog eine Nachricht für alle User veröffentlich wird, könnte der Button in einer Signalfarbe aufleuchten. Dann weiß man beim Aufruf der Website sofort, dass es was Neues gibt.
Es unterscheidet sich vom Glockensymbol anderer Fotoseiten dadurch, dass der Button nicht bei jedem Miin-Fuzzi-Kommentar aufleuchtet und damit nur nervt, sondern nur bei zentralen Botschaften von allgemeinem Interesse.
Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago.
ima:
ima:
Hi all

We would like you to give your *fav*, too, if you like it.

It's not fishing for compliments!
The only purpose is: With enough favs this picture will appear within *explore*, with the result, that more people recognize it.
(Unfortunately we don't have any news-button yet . . . )


Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
jeybee68
jeybee68
Die Frontpage sieht aufgeräumt und modern aus. Wechselt sich dann das Aufmacherfoto in einem bestimmten Turnus?

Gruß, jeybee
9 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to jeybee68
Ja, gerne auch jahreszeitlich.
9 months ago.
Andreas Z.
Andreas Z.
Gut so.
9 months ago.
Marko Novosel
Marko Novosel
Way better then the first one.
Hope youll find a place down the scroll for "Ipernity story" button.
This is also one thing what makes us different from other photo sharing sites,we have a story.
It would be smart to use it,it can help us attract new members.
cheers
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to Marko Novosel
Hi Marco!
Yes!
This story will be written and linker!
9 months ago.
@ngélique ♥
@ngélique ♥
moi j'aime bien !
9 months ago.
Falling Thru The Lens ... Goodbye...
Falling Thru The Len…
This looks great to me!

At least in American English, the abbreviation IMA would be in upper case. I agree that the wording beneath the 3 major links near the bottom could be clearer.

Great work, IMA!
9 months ago.
Bergfex has replied to Falling Thru The Len…
It's not only an abbreviation any longer. It's on it's way to become a brand. And it should harmonize with the ipernity trademark, which is written in minuskules, too. But that's not the only reason. It was a very complex discussion before we decided it.
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Falling Thru The Len… has replied to Bergfex
Thanks for letting me know.
9 months ago.
Manfred Kaddik
Manfred Kaddik
Mir gefällt diese Ansicht. Danke für die Arbeit
9 months ago.
Eunice Perkins
Eunice Perkins
I like it.
9 months ago.
Valfal
Valfal
The design is beautiful, I like it. :-)
9 months ago.
Ronaldo Vieira de Carvalho
Ronaldo Vieira de Ca…
I did not see the previous study but I liked this one.
9 months ago.
Anne Elliott
Anne Elliott
Thanks - I like this version.
9 months ago.
rod bally
rod bally
I like it!
9 months ago.
Peter Van Lom
Peter Van Lom
Works for me. Thanks for the effort...
9 months ago.
Boarischa Krautmo
Boarischa Krautmo
Looks good to me.
9 months ago.
Nora Caracci VERY BUSY
Nora Caracci VERY BU…
very good !
( I agree with the suggestion of a "story" button explaining what is IMA )
And what do you think about the possibility of adding different languages, too much difficult?
9 months ago.
ima:
ima:
We will eliminate the tautology, make the three text blocks even more succinct and implement most of the suggestions from avobe. A new release will be published soon.
Concerning languages: of course this frontpage will be realised in several languages later (see the scheduled link within the bootom line)
Bernhard (ima)
9 months ago.
Clint
Clint
So here I am, back from the dead for just a moment because even though I'm no longer part of the club, there are some things I just can't let pass without comment.

The text in English is clunky, and the phrases are worded in ways that I don't think would come naturally to native English speakers. It's sort of reminiscent of the old "Welcome to Clint" that my old page title defaulted to. I'd suggest something along the lines of:

Explore: See what's out there with a tour of Ipernity's groups and galleries.

(This avoids repetition with the word "Explore" and gets more cleanly to the point. If you wanted, you could go "See what's out there with a tour of Ipernity's groups, galleries, and member contributions." Less clean, but still works.)

Free Trial: See what Ipernity has to offer by taking advantage of club privileges for three months.

Membership: Join the club and make Ipernity a part of your life with full access.

Now, this is text I tossed off quickly, as I didn't want to spend a lot of time parsing over it, but I think words along these lines look much more natural for native English speakers than what you have.

An additional thing I'd consider: There's not a lot of difference between "Explore" and "Free Trial," as the purpose of the free trial is to let people explore. I'd consider merging those fields.

And one more thing, I get the sense your idea is to slowly rebrand Ipernity as ima. On the surface, I don't think this is a bad impulse, but in a rebrand, you have to consider everything your new brand might invoke. As an American, when I see "ima," especially written in lower case, I think "ima let you finish, but Beyoncé had one of the best videos of all time." (Google it. There was a meme.) For a long time now, "ima" has been a kind of American slang for "I'm going to," but it's been around long enough that it's not even considered good slang any more. It's sort of a joke. I don't know how pervasive this read will be, but it will pop into the heads of at least some potential customers, and I don't know that this is what you want.

That's it. ima go back into the ether again now.
9 months ago. Edited 9 months ago.
Manu
Manu
Newer version here www.ipernity.com/doc/team/46010386

(Linked from here www.ipernity.com/blog/team/4687248/comment/52722098#comment52722098, but not officially announced yet.)
9 months ago.
ima:
ima:
Hi Clint!
See there, please: www.ipernity.com/doc/team/46010386
9 months ago.
Elbertinum
Elbertinum
das Foto ist mir zu leer -
7 months ago.