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Pleiades

Pleiades
Contribution for the Project 21 Quarterly theme Jan - Mar 2021: Abstract

And if longing seizes you for sailing the stormy seas,
when the Pleiades flee mighty Orion
and plunge into the misty deep
and all the gusty winds are raging,
then do not keep your ship on the wine-dark sea
but, as I bid you, remember to work the land.

~ Works and Days by Hesiod

Pleiades by Stargarden at YouTube

goandgo, xenophora, Fred Fouarge, Jörg and 23 other people have particularly liked this photo


17 comments - The latest ones
 Jan
Jan
Wow this is BEAUTIFUL
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to Jan
Thanks Jan. I had temporary focusing problems with my camera, and decided to utilize it. Should try that more often, and intentionally focus out (e.g. with manual focus).
3 years ago.
 Annemarie
Annemarie club
a wonderful abstract Sami
3 years ago.
 Ulrich John
Ulrich John club
Lights in the Night !
3 years ago.
 HappySnapper
HappySnapper
Worked out well Sami, It's fine abstract for the group.
3 years ago.
 Nora Caracci
Nora Caracci club
emotion !
3 years ago.
 Boarischa Krautmo
Boarischa Krautmo club
good!
3 years ago.
 Esther
Esther club
Wonderful bokeh.
3 years ago.
 * ઇઉ *
* ઇઉ * club
Great, Sami!
You should really use 'out of focus' more often.
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
We all should ;-)
3 years ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
Indeed. ;)
I am considering renaming the 'Bokeh as MAIN subject' group to more clearly define the true purpose of this group. Maybe or hopefully then more members will feel encouraged.
This would also significantly minimize the lengthy group description by the group's founder, which hardly anyone seems to read anyway.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
Now that is a challenge! Looking forward to see how you get it solved. Unfortunately I can not think of any clear solutions. But you can always see what the "competition" is.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
I have compiled this list myself over the last two days. Many of the groups are orphaned and do not have Bokeh as main subject. In that respect, it won't be too difficult to give the bokeh group I took over a sharper profile. What a paradox. ;))
However, I won't leave it at that, as it is not really good for ipernity to have a myriad of orphaned and partly inactive groups. But one by one.
3 years ago. Edited 3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
At the moment we have deleted over 3500 groups out of ~10500, which was the number of groups when the work started in January.

The main problem is to make people understand it is not a good idea to establish competitive groups on the same topic, or have groups on very narrow subject.

Although, I understand some groups were started because other groups on similar topic were abandoned during ima take over, and then the group administration left to inactive members who does not even have subscription anymore.
3 years ago.
* ઇઉ * club has replied to Sami Serola (inactiv… club
While understanding the need to hold on to "cherished" groups (habits), it does more harm than good to preserve orphaned and usually very neglected groups at all costs.
Deleting such groups is, soberly considered, the only reasonable option. After all, who is willing to take over such groups, clean them up from scratch and, if necessary, set them up anew? The effort is simply not worth it in most cases. Therefore, hats off to ima for its courageous approach in this regard as well.
3 years ago.
* ઇઉ * club has added
It is often said that "competition is good for business". Many people were and are influenced by this thesis - also socially.
According to my countless observations, however, competition awakens baser instincts and poisons interpersonal relationships.
However, the creation of (new) groups with the same or similar topic/s also has other reasons.
3 years ago.
Sami Serola (inactiv… club has replied to * ઇઉ * club
According to my own experience, reasons to put up a "competitive" group here at ipernity have been for example the followings:

1) Members found the rules of the existing group too restrictive, which is why they open a similar group for themselves. I say this is completely understandable. I've seen cases where members have tried to negotiate to get things changed, but not succeeded, and therefore found it as an only option to put up a new group.

2) Group administrators does not get along, which is why some of them decides to start a group of their own. So, the poisonous interpersonal relationship can be also the cause. I've been involved into this, being the person who decided to give up, and start a new. Difficult to say if it is then making the situation even worse, or making it better in a long run. But I understand it may look strange for the outsiders, when there are some groups that seem to have some overlap. My suggestion then is to also try to make the new group at least somehow different than the other.

3) Members find the current administrator(s) inactive, and can not even reach them. The whole group is then found neglected, which is why some of the members decide to start a similar group of their own. This especially happened because of ima take over and numerous people leaving ipernity, and not taking care of the groups left. The ima team now has tools to get this fixed, but it takes time. I hope the new team puts more effort on this, and even takes over the abandoned groups more actively, and either close them, or negotiate with other groups on the same topic to find out, which of them should become closed.
3 years ago.

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