Sami Serola

Sami Serola

Posted on 01/24/2016


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Club Contest

Club Contest
Friends, please check the following out, and give feedback. The idea is to establish a contest and group to channel the possible Ipernity Club membership gifts to those who are interested to get it. I try to get this started before next month. At lest Lutz has promised to join as a sponsor. And if this turns out as not a working solution, then I just bury the idea.

DESCRIPTION FOR THE GROUP STARTS HERE:

Club Contest (CC) is a group for monthly contest arranged to participate and win Ipernity Club membership as a reward. Group is arranged by sponsors (CC administrators and moderators) who are willing to give Ipernity Club memberships as a gift, and it is addressed to anyone who want to get or prolong the club account.

Contest will be arranged on monthly bases. To participate, post only one picture per monthly contest. The picture has to be taken and created by you. Picture and any parts of it should be created and taken during the same month as the contest takes place. If cheating occurs, a Vodou replica will be made out of cheater's camera, and fiercely pierced with rusty nails...

Please add CC and number of the month in front of the picture title to identify it is truly sent for CC, and identify to what monthly contest the picture is supposed to participate. See example here:

CC2 My picture title

You don't have to join the group to participate, and you can remove the CC# from the beginning of the title when the current month's contest is over. Each month's contest ends till the midnight of month's last day on your local time. Judge will start their work in the next day, as soon as they get their eyes opened.

The winner of the month will be chosen and rewarded by the sponsor in turn. The monthly sponsor can however, ask help for decision from other CC sponsors. The winner of the month will be announced and rewarded within two weeks. CC sponsors themselves can not participate to this contest.

At the beginning only the #1 winner gets rewarded with 3 month club membership. The monthly sponsor however, has freedom to be even more generous. So, do follow the group discussion and announces to see what is on stake.

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25 comments - The latest ones
fragglerocks
fragglerocks
not sure I quite understand how someone can win only 3 months club memberships, doesn't it have to be a year? Anyway as I am already a club member I would be happy to be a sponsor for a years membership for someone.
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to fragglerocks
So, you are willing to join as a sponsor and member of judge? =)

What comes to 3 months club membership, at least here in Finland I can see this:

"Starting from 9.99 € / 3 months
For the price of a cup of coffee per month, treat yourself to the best service so that day after day you can tell the story of your life."

Well, I guess coffee is really expensive somewhere, and no wonder if drunken only one cup of it per month... =P
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has added
Anyway, if we get enough sponsors (5 or even 10), then I will be ready to give one year as well =)
20 months ago.
fragglerocks has replied to Sami Serola
yes I will be a member/judge/sponsor if you go ahead.
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to fragglerocks
Great! =) I will set up the group tomorrow, after I hopefully get some more feedback on this. I will open the group anyway, even if there is no more than now three of us as sponsors. Then we only need to consider how much and how often we can afford to arrange the contest.
20 months ago.
LutzP
LutzP
Hi Sami, I' bombed a little tonight after a 4,5 hour lecture I have given this afternoon. I'm afraid I can't think anymore. So give me another day to read, understand and respond appropriately. But you should know, that Val (Valfal) is setting up a group of concerned users. It may be worthwhile to get in touch to avoid overlapping.

Talk to you tomorrow. Greets Lutz
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to LutzP
Ok, thanks for letting me know =) I'll contact Valerie then to find out if her idea is better and offer my contribution there. I really don't want to cause any competition in this case.
20 months ago.
LutzP
LutzP
Hi Sami,
let me try to express my thoughts:
1. There is a Contest Without Price (CWP) group here, which has established a clear set of rules already, which might serve as a template.
2. We should not start the contest, before we have, say, at least 10 volunteers / sponsors.
3. In each contest, the sponsor should be named to be very clear, who is going to pay and what (3 months / one year)
4. Voting should be done by all sponsors similarly as in the CWP Group
5. Participation should be limited to non clubbers, because we want to extend the funding base. If we include those clubbers who have to renew, we do not do that.
6. I would prefer a structure with one admin, the sponsors being mods, and the participants join as members.
There will probably be more thoughts coming to my mind, which I will post here.
Cheers Lutz
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to LutzP
All of those sounds as good ideas =) I knew about Contest Without Price group, but indeed I (we) should look at it more carefully for ideas.

I realized one year as a prize would be better. And then we indeed need at least 10 sponsors. It probably means we then may have to wait at least one month more to get this started.

Surely we also need to name the sponsors. To organize the voting by all sponsors worries me a little because it can become rather complicated (everyone may not have time).

I had a quick correspondence with Valerie (valfal), and looks like there is no overlap. Actually the group she is planning could work as a better place to continue also this project.
20 months ago.
Sami Serola
Sami Serola
Friends, I guess some more time is needed to collect enough sponsors and to think this through. So, maybe it will be also better to use some more time on this.

Even the name of this group could be something else to consider for example French. How about 'Club Competition'?
20 months ago.
Heidiho
Heidiho
.... I agree all the ideas Lutz said.
This contest is interesting only for non-members.

What should be OUR (= the members) job ?
.... every day I see pics, somebody made, he/she is not a member.
We should send them invitations for this new group. To make the idea popular.

In the end Iper only will have a future by PAYING members. Or ?
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to Heidiho
Yes, of course invitations to participate should be sent as well. So, that particular thing on group setting should be set for "All the members of the group can suggest adding content to this group".

For me it is okay if competition would be open only for those who don't have Club membership yet. My idea to allow this for everyone was because I thought there are also those who's Club membership is soon ending and they would find this as a welcome option.

The "members" in more details would be:

Administrator, also one of the sponsors: Makes sure there is someone named as a head sponsor for next 2-3 months. Help sponsors on their tasks.

Moderators, who are the sponsors. Every month the sponsor in turn would take care on choosing the monthly best image with the help of other sponsors. Then the monthly head sponsor takes care of submitting the reward (e.g. one year Club membership for the winner).

Members, who are the participants. They can contribute each month with one picture. I thought members would not even have to join the group. As far as I know, it can be set as possible to contribute the group if not joined as member. However, if the participant is also a member of the group, then s/he is also asked to seek and recruit more participants (advertise the group by using the feature provided by Ipernity team).

I indeed want to get this started together with other people, and there's no need for me to make the rules alone. So, all the help and suggestions are welcome and everything I have said here are negotiable =)
20 months ago.
LutzP has replied to Sami Serola
...it's milling around in my head ... :-))
20 months ago.
LutzP
LutzP
Once we understand how this group should work we need a clear description of the purpose of the group in English, German and French. The purpose of the group is to extend the revenue base for ipernity by winning new club members ... etc.
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to LutzP
Just please don't lose your night sleep because of this ;-)

I now realized we definitely first have to find those 10 (or more) sponsors. I first considered being able to give 10 euros (3 months) just myself every month. But surely it would be better to give away a whole year, and then there is more sponsors needed.

And yes, at least those three languages would be great. For me English is the only option, and therefore I need help.

As Heidi pointed out, group like this needs also much visibility, especially among new members!

What comes to responsibilities, I say we also have to give sponsors an option to retire when ever they want. And that has to be made clear on group description something like:

- The intention of this group is to provide support for Ipernity Team, to help the service run.

- The supporters are volunteers, and therefore they have right to quit if they want.

- The group is in experimental stage. Therefore it may become closed for any reason the supporters see necessary. The current month's contest is however finished and winner rewarded.

- This group is not affiliated with the Ipernity Team. Sponsors are only other Ippernity members who just have enough money to spend for the common good.
20 months ago.
LutzP
LutzP
...all true and correect, Don't worry about the german translation ;-))
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to LutzP
I wont really worry about anything ;-) I have spent far too many years on social media. So, I have learned patience. Polite manners I still need to practice.

So, my apologies for not replying any sooner.

I opened access to this "picture" for everyone, in case some peeps found this by "accident". But I realized I'm not known, popular or cared Ipernity user enough to get enough attention.

So, I will wait for one month. And I will ask here and there, if we could get those 10 voluntary supporters behind this. And for me it is just the same if someone else wants to take the honor of this idea, establish the group, and give some other name for it.

I checked through the Contest Without Prize group, and that actually sounds good as well. It could be even better if group members could vote for the winner, and have some selected topics. I even started to think whether the CWP group could be changed into Contest With Prize group =D

But my original idea was to make this as simple as possible. So, if this gets enough attention and supporters, then maybe it could be a better idea to make it clearly different than CWP group: Supporters judge, and no specific topics.

But once again, these thoughts of mine are negotiable ;-)
20 months ago.
LutzP has replied to Sami Serola
Good morning Sami,

I will give it a try and write up a description and a set of rules as a start. But give me a few days, I will get back to you by Ipermail. I think it would be worthwhile to link up with the CWP. It's still milling in my head.

Greets Lutz
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to LutzP
And I consider joining CWP anyway, just for fun =D I didn't know there is such a great group!
20 months ago.
Annemarie
Annemarie
a great idea!
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to Annemarie
Thank you Annamaria =) Interested to become a sponsor?
20 months ago.
Sami Serola
Sami Serola
I guess this idea needs to be postponed till we get some interested people behind this. More sponsors needed...

I also have noticed the competition of services is getting really tough! There are at least two "new" services offering free space. They are not like Ipernity, very far from that. But worst thing is the all other services seem to use https, whereas Ipernity uses "old" http. This alone may alienate the potential new users.
20 months ago.
Sami Serola
Sami Serola
Looks like this was not a good idea after all. See discussion here: www.ipernity.com/blog/team/4392064/comment/44013436#comment44013436
20 months ago.
KYZ
KYZ
members can have also their extension of membership as rewards
20 months ago.
Sami Serola has replied to KYZ
Yes, that was what I first thought. To allow just everyone to participate into this contest.
20 months ago.