Joel Messinger

Joel Messinger

Posted on 03/23/2009


Photo taken on March 23, 2009



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191 LWFelderGermanyTripPostCard1914

191 LWFelderGermanyTripPostCard1914
A post card sent by Louis Felder during his trip to Germany in the summer of 1914. (As you can see, he was writing to Vera, his daughter.)
"Korntal, July 7, 1914. Here now with Aunt, Cousin Amelie. Tomorrow at Stuttgart to an Exposition of Child Culture. Saturday Dinner with Uncle [Gottlob] & Cousin Mary at House on this card. It is a Home for Deaconesses --German Lutheran Nuns. Sat at Dinner with 42 of them. So far the most frightful experience I've had in Germany. Most beautiful place --The Hills are 600 feet high. Solid Pine Tree Forest covered. Your picture on [piano?] here at Korntal. Save the cards. Greetings from Papa." [Then, he wrote along the margin] "Writing this on my Grandfather's Desk --100 years old."
The front of the postcard says, "Bad Liebenzell. Erholungshaus für Diaconissen." --A retreat (or rest home) for deaconesses at the spa town of Liebenzell.
I wonder if that desk (about 200 years old now) is still in the family.

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Matthäus Felder
Matthäus Felder
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This is the desk, which I inherited from my father. I think, it’s not 200 years old yet.
8 years ago.
Joel Messinger
Joel Messinger
I guess your father inherited that desk from his cousin Amalie Bayha (daughter of Gottlob's older sister) who was already living in Korntal before the First World War. I read in your tribalpages site that your parents made the decision to move to Korntal because "Hitler means war, and war means the bombing of cities..."; and Korntal was a suburb of Stuttgart (although, it still managed to get damaged!). I don't read German well enough to have understood: Did he inherit (or acquire) that house (the one which picture you recently posted) from Amalie Bayha (who died in '37)? Or was that another place?
(If I am to read German passages to fully understand the meaning, I must have a dictionary and perhaps "501 German Verbs (fully conjugated)" at hand.)
Yes, you are right: that desk couldn't be 200 years old (or even 195 years, now) if it was Louis' grandfather (Lukas Christian) who had first acquired it. He would have been only twelve years of age in 1814. (If he managed to acquire something like that at age twelve, I imagine his own father -Lukas Christoph- would have been very jealous!)
8 years ago.
Matthäus Felder has replied to Joel Messinger
I wonder who told L. W. F. the story of "100 years old". German furniture then looked about like this:
wandschrank  1817
8 years ago.
Joel Messinger
Joel Messinger
Yes. I see now. The guy who made your great-great-grandfather's desk definitely forgot to paint it!

(I googled "Siebenbürgen", which I never heard of before: Transylvania Germans --this gentleman, Klaus Untch is from Cordlea, in the heart of Romania. I came across other websites about this area. Apparently, in the wake of the exodus of ethnic Germans to Germany, these old Wehrkirchen and village halls, etc. are all crumbling in decay. if you go there today this is what you'd see: www.peterhjacobi.de/siebenbuergische_wehr.htm .)
8 years ago.
Matthäus Felder has replied to Joel Messinger
It’s a real disaster, I’d say.
8 years ago.
Matthäus Felder
Matthäus Felder
Verlassenes Erholungsheim
Today I was there and I heard from neighbours that the institution is not being operated any more since approximately 20 years.
8 years ago.
Joel Messinger
Joel Messinger
Built in 1911? I wonder if your great-grandfather Gottlob helped raise the money for it. (There must have been a reason why he wanted to take his nephew there to see it.) Gottlob seemed to have been quite active in the Evangelical (Lutheran) Church. From his 1913 letter to his sister Marie Hieber in Indiana (which you translated ten years ago, I think): "Since 30 years I'm in church community council of St. Leonhard Church [he was living in Stuttgart, on Heusteig-Strasse 86], and on May 1st this year they made me inspector of the 12 small children's nurseries here." This reference to the "nurseries" would explain the interest in the "child culture exposition" mentioned in the postcard.
8 years ago.
Matthäus Felder
Matthäus Felder
I’m convinced of it, Joel. These nurses still run another "Erholungshaus" on Lake Constance:
www.diak-stuttgart.de/index.php?id=25
May be they have an archive in Stuttgart. I have to find a way to get a good contact in order to find out, what role Gottlob once played in the foundation.
By the way – I’m fascinated, how you imagine these connections.
8 years ago.