Roland

Roland

Posted on 04/23/2015


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25 comments - The latest ones
Roland
Roland
ipernity staff ! why are you censoring again and again the stream of Yuma de Lamour * ? she never did anything wrong or forbidden on your photo platform. she is a most honourable, endearing, honest person. I think, you, ipernity staff, dont accept her world view, and that's why you are censoring her. ipernity staff, you are acting arbitrarily and undemocratically.
ipernity staff, shame on you !
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
Joachim Bomann has replied to Roland
Wenn es sich um das handelt was ich leider auf flickr lesen musste: Gut, daß für solchen dummen, haßerfüllten, lügnerischen Antisemitismus auf Iperity kein Platz ist! Im IRAN leben verschiedene Religionen friedlich nebeneinander? Schon mal gelesen was u. a. Amnesty International über die Menschenrechtssituation im IRAN bericht? Man, man, was für eine verquirlte Kackscheiße. Passt vielleicht zur Partei 'Die Rechte', aber nicht zu einer Photocommunity.
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to Joachim Bomann
hallo Joachim,
"In Deutschland wird die Meinungsfreiheit durch Art. 5 Abs. 1 Satz 1 1. Hs. Grundgesetz (GG) gewährleistet."
erschreckend, wie leichtfertig Du bereit bist dein eigenes grundrecht bei erstbester gelegenheit abzuschaffen
als kleinen denkstoß anbei ein zitat.
„Ich missbillige, was du sagst, aber würde bis auf den Tod dein Recht verteidigen, es zu sagen"
- Evelyn Beatrice Hall
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to Joachim Bomann
.....und hier noch links zum unterschied zwischen antisemitismus und antizionismus bzw kritik an der politik des staates israel. denk mal drüber nach.

www.fr-online.de/frankfurt/antisemitismus--es-geht-um-israel--nicht-um-die-juden-,1472798,28021332.html

der-semit.de

Miko Peled - Ein jüdischer Israeli und Friedensaktivist über die Wahrheit in Israel
www.youtube.com/watch?v=WF_AsxQLijY
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
Roland has replied to Joachim Bomann
ich bin nicht für ein politisch - religöses sytem wie das herrschende im Iran, Joachim. besser als das schah - system ist die gegenwärtige regierung aber allemal für die menschen dort. die tendenziöse, undifferenzierte darstellung des Iran durch westliche medien, als kriegslüsterndem terrorregime ist unzutreffend.

Norman G. Finkelstein - The truth about Iran
normanfinkelstein.com/2010/04/27/the-truth-about-iran
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
tiltdesign2011 has replied to Roland
Ich würde den Artikel gerne mal lesen. Gibt es einen Link?
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to tiltdesign2011
welchen artikel meinst du? eins höher ist doch der link zu Jeffrey Rudolphs "Iran Quiz" ;)

also hier nochmals

normanfinkelstein.com/2010/04/27/the-truth-about-iran
2 years ago.
Roland
Roland
Education Is a System of Indoctrination of the Young - Noam Chomsky
www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVqMAlgAnlo
2 years ago.
Walfisch
Walfisch
“I disapprove of what you say, but I will defend your right to say it.” (Evelyn Beatrice Hall)
2 years ago.
dolores666 has replied to Walfisch
I thought it was Voltaire who said that. No matter. It is a fairly good quotation...if not taken too far. Who wants to fight for the right of, say, Cristine Lagarde to pontificate and talk rubbish to others? :-)
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to dolores666
Voltaire never said these words. they were written by Evelyn Beatrice Hall in here Voltaire biograpy.

there is a difference between free expression and talking rubbish or a deliberate lie ;)

in germany i have the right to say a politician talks rubbish ;)

in Germany the "freedom of expression" is granted by article 5 of the basic law for the Federal Republic of Germany.

shaping of public opinion mostly takes place by the impact of mainstream media reporting.
that is why we call these medias mainstream medias ;)

What Makes Mainstream Media Mainstream
Noam Chomsky
www.chomsky.info/articles/199710--.htm
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
dolores666 has replied to Roland
Re. Voltaire, I stand (or, rather, sit) duly corrected, Roland. Danke.
As for talking rubbish with impunity and calling it The Truth...I better not get into this right now. :-)
In any case, much cheered by the spotting of another Finklestinian (and Chomsian!) in this desert of midstreamness.
Sleep well.
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to dolores666
thanks a lot for your comments, Dolores :-)
have a bewitching Walpurgis Night ;)
and enjoy the May Day !
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
dolores666 has replied to Roland
Thanks for the well-wishing, Roland. I'm just off to the garden with the Shoggoths, to dance naked around the Totem Pole and drink Spanish beer and exorcise the bad spirits, of which many in my neck of the woods. Happy May Day to you camarada! :-)
2 years ago.
Roland
Roland
there is a lot of political content posted on ipernity.

www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ipernity+politique

www.google.de/?gws_rd=ssl#q=ipernity+politik

december 2014 the ipernity staff started mobbing "Yuma de Lamour"
because of allegedly infringements. "....political content is not allowed. ipernity is only
for having fun ....." the truth is, they blocked her stream again and again, because
they are censoring her worldview.

www.ipernity.com/doc/294069/36694892
ipernity staff is censoring political content arbitrarily with reference to there vague rules.
"We reserve the right at our own discretion to delete any content ......"
- ipernity, Guide of good conduct
www.ipernity.com/about/guidelines

"Think for yourselves and let others enjoy the privilege to do so too."
-Voltaire, Essay on Tolerance
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
dolores666 has replied to Roland
Yuma was not the only one who got mobbed, as you so graphically put it. There's been another expulsion of a member for writing a short article dissenting from the official Je Suis Charlie party-line/dogma. You can freely express yourself, here...as long as you don't talk heressy ;-) Savonarola would be proud.
2 years ago.
Rhisiart Hincks
Rhisiart Hincks
I find it a little like a holiday camp site I know well in France, where there is a clearly stated rule (and clear statements are very much lacking on Ipernity) that you are not allowed to hold political or religious discussions. In that context, I can see the reason, as everyone is there to escape for a short holiday, but Ipernity is 365 days a year and I don't think photography should only be an escape. It should encompass all aspects of life, and as long as people are civilised and don't insult or belittle each other, we should be allowed to express our views and say what we think is going on around us, even if we are mistaken.

I find the censorship on Ipernity very small-minded and unintelligent, and although I much prefer using Ipernity to other sites,I feel that I cannot renew my subscription for the time being. I don't want to pay censors who delete articles by learned and reasonable people who are also friends. I would grant the censors license to delete extreme comments, if someone denied the Holocaust or used insulting words about another user but the censrship is much deeper than that.

Ipernity never stated that we were only allowed "to have fun" when I joined, and until they actually state that they are not totalitarian and that they do allow freedom of expression, I feel that I can only be on the periphery of this site, as a non-subscribing contributor who spends most of his time elsewhere.
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to Rhisiart Hincks
I agree with you, Rishiart.

what I dislike most on ipernity is their arrogance, doublespeak and moralization.
they make use of their own rules as it suits them best.

of course I will not renew my ipernity "club membership".
2 years ago. Edited 2 years ago.
dorofoto has replied to Roland
sehr unangenehm das ganze. hast du schon eine ahnung, wohin du ziehen wirst mit deinen bildern, roland?
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to dorofoto
hi Doro, ja, ärgerlich dieses ipernity. ich behalte den account hier, aber nicht mehr als "clubmitglied". yahoo mag ich zwar auch nicht, aber ich hab doch wieder einen flickrstream ;)
2 years ago.
William Sutherland
William Sutherland
Fantastic composition! Well said. Hope one day the censorship and double standards end. There was no rational reason to suspend Yuma's account time and time again until she left.

Admired in:
www.ipernity.com/group/tolerance
2 years ago.
Roland has replied to William Sutherland
thank you, William !
2 years ago.
hlegallais
hlegallais
I do agree !!!
2 years ago.
Roland
Roland
thanks for your comment, hlegallais !
2 years ago.
Heleconia Hele
Heleconia Hele
Aha!
2 years ago.