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Stop picture theft

Stop picture theft

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125 comments - The latest ones
Marie-claire Gallet
Marie-claire Gallet
Thank you for warning us !! But for "commercial" reasons, I do not undrestand what is the goal of such persons, except too big an ego
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Marie-claire Gallet
too big an ego = a sick ego, Marie-Claire, otherwise such institutions or people would not act as they do, because in the end their damage is greater than their benefit.
3 months ago.
Erika Akire
Erika Akire
...YES !!!...
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Erika Akire
:)
3 months ago.
Nicole Merdrignac
Nicole Merdrignac
Superbe composition. Nicole.
3 months ago.
Erhard Bernstein
Erhard Bernstein
Agree
3 months ago.
Betty【ツ】
Betty【ツ】
Yessssssss+++++ Je ne sais pas si on m'a volé des photos, mais je suis d'accord avec ta protestation.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Betty【ツ】
Not so much a protest as rather a serious warning and an appeal to the sanity of those responsible, Betty, as the limit has been reached.
3 months ago.
Betty【ツ】 has replied to * ઇઉ *
Oh.. ok ! Have a nice weekend..
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Betty【ツ】
Thanks, Betty, you too.
3 months ago.
Doug Shepherd
Doug Shepherd
Fully agree.
3 months ago.
Ninfea
Ninfea
Thank you !!
3 months ago.
Thérèse
Thérèse
Est ce que la protestation suffit pour arrêter le phénomène ?
C'est en tous cas indigne !
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Thérèse
Of course, protest alone isn't enough, Thérèse, however, this is no protest.
Everyone can do as I do also something against picture and/or text theft - if he/she really wants.
3 months ago. Edited 3 months ago.
Thérèse has replied to * ઇઉ *
Mais tu fais comment? Tu écris ton nom directement sur la photo, en grand, pour que la photo soit inutilisable ? Faut réduire Susi le format en grandeur timbre poste pour qu'elle soit floue en la zoomant? Moi je sais pas copier les autre, je n'ai aucune envie de montrer quelque qui ne soit pas de moi... Aucun sens et je ne comprends la motivation que peut avoir un voleur ... Il y a tant et tant de choses que je ne comprends pas
Merci d'essayer de protéger nos images.
Bon retour au job, ma chère :)
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Thérèse
There are several ways to protect your own pictures and/or texts (as listed in the comments below), but where there is a will, there is always a way for (photo) thieves.
Although the theft cannot be completely prevented, some measures can make an image rather unattractive for thieves. Finally, there's the legal way: action for injunction, action for damages, etc.. However, institutions that systematically and contrary to better knowledge violate copyrights justify the suspicion that they do so in order to obtain the personal data of the injured parties since the data trade is significantly more lucrative for them than the illegally used image/s.
I really do have a lot of understanding, but like you, I don't understand people or institutions that get rich at the expense of others, because in the end, they harm even themselves.

Yes, my Internet connection is working again, and I'm happy to be able to be here again. Thank you for your kind regards after my return, Thérèse. :)
3 months ago.
Thérèse has replied to * ઇઉ *
smile... merci à toi, pour l'amitié que tu voues, tes réponses ... j'ai juste envie de te raconter une petite histoire : une dame qui a remarqué que quelqu'un avait volé un couteau suisse dans sa boutique s'est exclamée en parlant du voleur : fait rien, il ira droit en enfer !.... lol
biz
3 months ago.
Nora Caracci VERY BUSY
Nora Caracci VERY BU…
great message, bravo !
3 months ago.
Nora Caracci VERY BUSY
Nora Caracci VERY BU…
and excellent work !
3 months ago.
William Sutherland
William Sutherland
Excellent compo and message!

Admired in:
www.ipernity.com/group/tolerance
3 months ago. Edited 3 months ago.
Ulrich John
Ulrich John
Yessss ! I agree completely ! Merci beaucoup !
3 months ago.
Gisela Plewe
Gisela Plewe
Ja, was bedeutet das, wenn ein neues Album sofort 33 Besuche hat, von denen nur 4 von ipernity-Freunden stammen...es macht zornig, wütend, weil men sich ohnmächtig alles Illegale vorstellen kann !
3 months ago.
neira-Dan has replied to Gisela Plewe
oui , c'est vraiment étrange !! Il y a des robots exploreurs pour les moteurs de recherche; mais 33 d'un coup !!
3 months ago. Edited 3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Gisela Plewe
I know this phenomenon since being at ipernity, Gisela, but it doesn't make me angry as it can have many causes. One of them is certainly the human mentality in general. We can learn to deal with it - and we aren't powerless.
If you're publishing a new album and it's mainly for your ipernity friends, wouldn't an appropriate setting for sharing be a solution for you?
3 months ago.
Gudrun has replied to * ઇઉ *
As far as I can see there's only a setting for friends and family or for everybody. It would be good to have the option (logged-in) Ipernity users.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Gudrun
You write: " It would be good to have the option (logged-in) Ipernity users."

This was my suggestion when ipernity was still ipernity S.A. and was headed by Christophe R.. At that time he promised to implement my proposal or request. Unfortunately, this didn't happen anymore. Maybe ima can set it up sometime - when there's enough money left.
3 months ago.
Gisela Plewe has replied to * ઇઉ *
Ich kann mich Gudrun nur anschließen. Sonst hat man wirklich nur die Wahl, alle Kontakte auf "Freunde" zu setzen und seine Alben nur für diese zu öffnen. Wozu gibt es dann Differenzierungsmöglichkeiten?
Das erwähnte Album hat inzwischen 55 Besucher, von denen nach wie vor nur 5 ip-Mitglieder sind. Meine Bilder sind mit viel Aufwand individualisiert, und da stört mich eine solche Entwicklung schon! Bei Postkartenmotiven ist es mir dagegen nicht so wichtig, weil solche Bilder keine eigene Handschgrift zeigen.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Gisela Plewe
Another differentiation - here, logged in contacts and/or ipernity users - would really be an advantage, not only, but also to minimize the risk of the photo theft. So let's hope that ima will take up and implement this topic in due course.
3 months ago.
Gerda
Gerda
I agree! Great job you did with this note.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Gerda
Unfortunately necessary in view of continuing and increasing copyright infringements inside and outside ipernity.
There it' s a real benefit seeing a proper and so also exemplary observance of copyright and the implementation of license regulations when using foreign material, as with you.
3 months ago.
Lore M. Ipsum
Lore M. Ipsum
Bingo! That's why I like to take photos of old shoes, lol.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Lore M. Ipsum
Even photos of old shoes find such "lovers"! ;)
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
It is a constant battle to keep my photos from being misused especially for commercial purposes.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Ron Hanko
Sad thing, Ron, but ideally, this constant battle has at least one advantage - if you don't give up.
3 months ago.
Rymie Jolie
Rymie Jolie
Le message est passé!
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Rymie Jolie
What do you mean, please?
3 months ago.
Rymie Jolie has replied to * ઇઉ *
C'est au sujet de la sécurité contre le vol d'images!
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Rymie Jolie
Thank you. :)
3 months ago.
Fred Fouarge
Fred Fouarge
Ik ben het volledig met u eens!
3 months ago.
Gudrun
Gudrun
I fully agree! Basically- if you don't want your photos to be stolen, don't post at all. But at least reduce size.
3 months ago. Edited 3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Gudrun
Reducing the image size is one possibility. Another possibility is to reduce the resolution, even if all this doesn't offer 100% security against image theft. But it makes your own pictures less appealing to thieves.
3 months ago.
tiabunna
tiabunna
Yes indeed. I know of a couple of mine that have been copied and misused (not from ipernity), despite having watermarks on them.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to tiabunna
Here too, sad to read, George.
Watermarks, whether superficial or invisible or copyright notices, are in fact no obstacle for thieves - neither inside nor outside ipernity. A modest protection in our own hands is, as mentioned above, the reduction of image size and resolution to make our own images less attractive to picture thieves. But of course, even this doesn't deter institutions or people who think everything that's possible is also allowed and interpret internationally applicable laws as they please. However, in the end their arrogance doesn't pay off, for there is no cause without effect.
3 months ago.
Mariano
Mariano
Hola * ઇઉ *. Me parece muy bien. en mi caso ya me he rendido. He denunciado a varias personas que suben como propias fotos mías a Pinterest y esa empresa lo único que hace es borrarlas para que después vuelvan aparecer; si ellos no toman medidas que se puede hacer contra facebook y otros grandes que no les interesa la piratería. Te ganan por cansancio. Así que ya no me preocupo más, si alguien es feliz mostrando fotos que no son suyas y las hace aparecer como propias que disfrute se enanismo mental. Mis saludos
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Mariano
Hola, Mariano. As far as institutions as Pinterest, Facebook and/or Yandex are concerned, they all seem to have the aim of obtaining the personal data of the infringed parties, as this is far more lucrative than the illegal, because unauthorized use of copyrighted photos (and/or texts), at least, if they are small in size and of the smallest possible resolution, because platforms like Yandex refuse to act if their online form isn't completed in full, invoking unspecified laws to enforce their interests while in turn disregarding and trampling on copyright.
We shouldn't give up. I hope that the majority of infringers will see through the real intentions of these institutions and react accordingly. Best regards.
3 months ago.
Mariano has replied to * ઇઉ *
Estoy totalmente de acuerdo contigo. Muchas gracias
3 months ago.
Ecobird
Ecobird
Hi * ઇઉ *. This is really thought-provoking. I would never have considered that anyone would want to use my photos in this way or why, so it has not concerned me. I am now thinking maybe I am a little naive, but it is awful not to be able to trust people. How would you know if they have been used if you don't use social media or actively search I wonder? Thank you for the warning. Have a good weekend
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Ecobird
My pleasure, Carol. I think it's only fair to bring the resistance against the theft of images (and/or texts) to the most efficient level possible, especially since various institutions support or promote the misconduct of partly unsuspecting private individuals for reasons of profit. Have a good weekend, too.
3 months ago.
Simone Maurel
Simone Maurel
je partage entièrement cette idée;bon we
3 months ago.
Leo W
Leo W
I do not give everyone the full resolution, then the damage is not great
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Leo W
That's true, Leo.
3 months ago.
Claudia G
Claudia G
Merci pour l'info !
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Thanks for the visit.
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Have a great day.
3 months ago.
ME.
ME.
Thanks for the advice!
I have not yet dealt with this topic, nor can I imagine that there is a great interest in my photos.
Advertising agencies may have other ways to get free photos and will beware of stealing them. So who else is doing this? Maybe I'm too innocent in this, but I don't think I show anything so extraordinary that it provokes the theft.
I do not put my photos here in the original file. So if a photo is stolen in spite of everything, then it's just so- I keep my really important photos under lock and key.

But as a viewer, I think it's a pity if as an IP member I only get to see foreign works in very small and low resolution...this spoils the pleasure of viewing them and I can't really appreciate such a photo either.

My thoughts on the topic and thank you very much for bringing it to my attention!
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to ME.
You're welcome, ME., and thank you for your thoughts on the topic!

Your pictures are both photo-technically and artistically of very high quality and for this reason alone quite interesting for potential, private and institutional picture thieves.

[I also never thought my pictures or creative works would be of noteworthy interest to picture thieves. Nevertheless, just the image search service mentioned above has stored almost all my photos, although I don't publish the original files either, and made them available to (not only) its registered users without asking me for permission beforehand. The remark that's added later by it that a download of the picture/s isn't possible as they are to be found on a (my) website, is mere eyewash. (If I want my pictures or creative works to be distributed beyond ipernity, I'd like to be free to decide myself where and how I do it.) In order to delete illegally stored images, the said platform forces the disclosure of the personal data of the persons concerned. In this way, material (personal data) can be obtained indirectly, which for many is even more lucrative than the stolen images - if those affected fall for it.]

But despite the fact that not everything that's possible is allowed, even dubious advertising agencies still use the possibilities of the Internet. But the usability of my pictures for them can really be excluded with a probability bordering on certainty - for several reasons. ;)
3 months ago.
ME. has replied to * ઇઉ *
!

Thank you for the explanation - of course you are right!
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to ME.
With pleasure. ME.. Nonetheless, I'd wish I was wrong.

Wishing you a pleasant weekend.
3 months ago.
Rainer Blankermann
Rainer Blankermann
Thank You!
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Have a great weekend.
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
All the best.
3 months ago.
Bergfex
Bergfex
Ich möchte zu der Diskussion ergänzen: Sobald ihr einen Bilderklau bemerkt, könnt ihr über ein Tool, das von der Rechtsanwaltskanzlei Dulden / Röttger zur Verfügung gestellt wird, einen gerichtsfesten Screenshot machen und ein Abmahnverfahren einleiten:
ggr-law.com/urheberrecht/faq/bilderklau-und-fotoklau-im-internet-was-kann-man-dagegen-tun
3 months ago. Edited 3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Bergfex
Thank you very much for the link, Bernhard!
Is the law firm internationally active? But okay, everyone concerned can check that for him/herself.

During my work for the group "Ipernity Frontpage & What's Hot!" I've just found again an ipernity member, who suggests foreign pictures as own, " © All rights reserved", without attributing the true source and the true author... Cheeky and incredible - but unfortunately true.

At this point, I'd like to point out again the possibility to report such pictures. In the lower right next to "Authorizations, license" is to read "Report as inappropriate". Images that don't comply with ipernity's rules, copyright and licensing terms, etc., can be reported there. However, one should insert clear references such as the link to the respective original in order to make the infringement verifiable for the ima team.

Another possibility is to inform the true author of the obvious violation of his copyright by another Internet user (here, ipernity user). Everything else is then in the hands of the infringed party (Here again, insert the link, but this time to the stolen picture).
3 months ago.
Meral Alkim has replied to * ઇઉ *
Hallo * ઇઉ *,
many thanks for your effort!
Can my pictures be stolen here at Ipernity,
or copied and the like?
With kind regards
Meral Alkim
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Meral Alkim
Hi, Meral, ipernity protects our images from theft as best as possible, but "clever" picture thieves inside and outside ipernity know how to avoid this protection.

By the possibilities shown here in the comments one can protect oneself pictures additionally against theft, since they thus become clearly more unattractive for picture thieves, but also this doesn't prevent some people or institutions from the unauthorized copying and the unauthorized use in any kind.
2 months ago.
Uli F. has replied to Bergfex
Wie kann ich feststellen ob Fotos von mir geklaut worden sind, Bernhard (Titel in Suchmaschine eingeben)?
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Uli F.
Hi, Uli. I'm not Bernhard, but I'll gladly give you information as I've to deal with copyright infringements and/or the violation of licensing regulations on a daily basis and try to raise awareness of this topic here.
There are several image search engines - with different advantages and disadvantages - that you can integrate as an add-on into your browser, for example, Firefox. I myself work with several in parallel to have the highest possible security. One option would be "Who stole my pictures?", for example (it's one of the most well known). Not used by me personally, but contains several well-known image search engines.
Select one of your images, right-click on it, select the desired search engine in the window that opens and click left. At "Who stole my pictures?" you can also open all search engines simultaneously. It also offers further options.
If one of your images has actually been stolen, you will find out using at least one of these search engines.
2 months ago.
Uli F. has replied to * ઇઉ *
Hello * ઇઉ *, please excuse me, that I called you "Bernhard" (he's a nice guy ;-) ).
I thank you very much for your answer and the explanations. I'll try it!
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Uli F.
You've indeed addressed your question to Bernhard (Bergfex), so also used the right name. Therefore, in this respect, there's nothing to excuse, Uli. ;)
However, I hope you both don't resent me for having replied in his place, because here in my gallery - as well as elsewhere - I'd like to sensitize for this important ongoing theme.
Good luck to you.
2 months ago.
Ecobird
Ecobird
Thank you for your visits and kind invitations. Have a good week. Best wishes
3 months ago.
©hristine .../...
©hristine .../...
A few years ago (from another platform), I found one of my photos illustrating a political article! Of course, without my permission! My "photographer" 's name was mentioned, but I was very shocked!!!
Thank you for sharing the information and have a great day ;)
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to ©hristine .../...
With pleasure, Christine. It's a pity you were affected by picture theft, too. The shamelessness with which such things happen shocks me too and makes almost speechless. I hope you were at least compensated.
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Thanks again.
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
All the best.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Ron Hanko
Thank you, Ron, all the best also for you and your loved ones.
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko has replied to * ઇઉ *
Thanks ever so much.
3 months ago.
Esther
Esther
I have found my images on other sites and it angers me. I am very generous with the use of my images if asked by non-profits, but when they don't ask, they are stealing.
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Esther
I understand your anger, Esther, and you're right to say it's theft when you're not asked.
2 months ago.
ROL/Photo
ROL/Photo
Oui, je suis à 100% d'accord avec ton avertissement...il peut servir.. il doit servir..!
mais il est nécessaire à mon humble avis de faire le plus possible
pour que l'on ne puisse plus voler les photos..
J'ai beaucoup de mes photos que GOOGLE m'a volé quand j'étais sur Panoramio..!
je les retrouve dans des sites de recherches..
un exemple.. **mes papillons**... si tu cherches un certain type de papillon
eh bien tu retrouves de mes photos car déjà je les reconnais mais en plus elles
sont toujours signées... par** ROL/Photo ou avant Roland**
mais cela ne se passe pratiquement plus.. je me suis séparé complètement de Google..
toutefois... les photos qui passent sur EXPLORER.. google les prends quand même..!
En tous les cas merci pour ton avertissement.. je serais encore plus prudent..
Bon W/end
3 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to ROL/Photo
Thanks, Roland. Yes, it's good and right to be as careful as possible - not only with our own pictures.
2 months ago.
Ecobird
Ecobird
Have a lovely weekend and many thanks for your visits and kind invitations.
3 months ago.
Tess Mc Kenna
Tess Mc Kenna
Thanks for the information on stolen images. Much appreciated
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Congratulations on Explore.
3 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Have a wonderful day.
2 months ago.
annaig56
annaig56
merci pour l'information,
2 months ago.
uwschu
uwschu
Danke sehr, auch für den Link
2 months ago.
Diana Australis
Diana Australis
Total agreement. Have a wonderful weekend!
2 months ago.
Ecobird
Ecobird
Have a lovely weekend. Becoming more aware now so thank you.
2 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Thanks for the visit a week ago but the photo will not add to the group.
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Ron Hanko
It is apparently a bug, Ron. I renew the invitation and hope that the acceptance will then work as with other members so affected. Please try "accepting" again.
2 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Have a great day.
2 months ago.
dolores666
dolores666
Thanks for all the latest invites to Frontpage.
On the subject in hand...what about non-comercial usages? I download lots of copyrighted stuff just to use as screensavers on my desktop or just to look at, for the sheer pleasure of it; and dozens of interesting texts for my research, not to mention snippets found on online papers and magazines.
Also, why pick on Yander alone? Google, Bing, Yahoo et al are as bad.
Closing the balancing act: the makers of the film Avatar lifted the plot straight from an Ursula K LeGuin novel (although they changed a few things to make the story more palatable to American audiences) and they didn't even give Ursula a credit, let alone a copyright fee.
You might have a valid point or two, but you're being too strict, rather selective and also a tad messianic in tone. There are far more important battles to fight in the world right now, wouldn't you say? :-)
2 months ago. Edited 2 months ago.
Ron Hanko has replied to dolores666
It's theft, plain and simple.
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to dolores666
Thanks for your questions and thoughts, Dolores.

Pictures, graphics and/or texts, etc., are always the property of the author, even if they don't bear a copyright notice. Use for private purposes is generally permitted. This means that if you use a work protected by copyright, for example, an image or text, as a screensaver, this is usually not legally attackable, but anything that goes beyond that. But you surely know all that yourself.

I've had corresponding experiences with Yandex, not with Google, Bing or Yahoo. It would be wrong for me to "judge" persons or institutions with whom I've had no comparable experience of my own - or to accept information from third parties without verification.
Sadly, when the creators of the film "Avatar" have really violated the copyrights of Ursula K LeGuin. Sadly, not only because they would give a very bad example.

I'm not the legislator, not even that of copyright laws or licensing regulations. My wording, however, generally follows the respective legal texts. Copyrights, like most other laws, aren't freely interpretable, and the Internet isn't a lawless space. If anyone doesn't like my respective wording, please complain to the authors of the legislative texts - or to oneself - in the event of a lack of self-regulation and discipline ( I think I'm dealing with grown-ups here and should, therefore, be allowed to express facts and truths unembellished - not softened up - as they are: Sometimes unpleasant).

Last but not least: Certainly there are bigger battles in the world, but if we don't start to change something in ourselves, it doesn't help us to want to improve the world. So, who wants or is allowed to decide if and which battle is more important when it comes to truth and justice? In the end, I'm not warning against the consequences of copyright infringements for my own sake, but have seized the opportunity that presented itself to me to raise awareness of the issue. We are here, after all, a photo community in which copyright infringements, including the violation of licensing regulations, aren't uncommon - unfortunately.
2 months ago.
Annemarie
Annemarie
!!!!!!!!!!!
2 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Thanks for the invites but my pictures still won't upload to the group.
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Ron Hanko
Sami and I are trying to find the cause, Ron. Therefore, I'll renew the invitation a little later. Please be patient, and thank you for your renewed feedback.
2 months ago.
Ron Hanko
Ron Hanko
Still unable to upload photos to the group. Am I blocked or something?
2 months ago.
* ઇઉ * has replied to Ron Hanko
No, Ron, it was only on August 25, 2018, that the opportunity to submit contributions was temporarily closed after my appeal of June 26, 2018, continued to be disregarded by those group members to whom it applied. Please read this post, www.ipernity.com/group/frontpage/discuss/190696.
2 months ago.