Stop picture theft

Thank you for warning us !! But for "commercial" reasons, I do not undrestand what is the goal of such persons, except too big an ego

too big an ego = a sick ego, Marie-Claire, otherwise such institutions or people would not act as they do, because in the end their damage is greater than their benefit.

...YES !!!...

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Superbe composition. Nicole.

Agree

Fully agree.

Thank you !!

Est ce que la protestation suffit pour arrêter le phénomène ?
C'est en tous cas indigne !

Of course, protest alone isn't enough, Thérèse, however, this is no protest.
Everyone can do as I do also something against picture and/or text theft - if he/she really wants.

Mais tu fais comment? Tu écris ton nom directement sur la photo, en grand, pour que la photo soit inutilisable ? Faut réduire Susi le format en grandeur timbre poste pour qu'elle soit floue en la zoomant? Moi je sais pas copier les autre, je n'ai aucune envie de montrer quelque qui ne soit pas de moi... Aucun sens et je ne comprends la motivation que peut avoir un voleur ... Il y a tant et tant de choses que je ne comprends pas
Merci d'essayer de protéger nos images.
Bon retour au job, ma chère :)

There are several ways to protect your own pictures and/or texts (as listed in the comments below), but where there is a will, there is always a way for (photo) thieves.
Although the theft cannot be completely prevented, some measures can make an image rather unattractive for thieves. Finally, there's the legal way: action for injunction, action for damages, etc.. However, institutions that systematically and contrary to better knowledge violate copyrights justify the suspicion that they do so in order to obtain the personal data of the injured parties since the data trade is significantly more lucrative for them than the illegally used image/s.
I really do have a lot of understanding, but like you, I don't understand people or institutions that get rich at the expense of others, because in the end, they harm even themselves.

Yes, my Internet connection is working again, and I'm happy to be able to be here again. Thank you for your kind regards after my return, Thérèse. :)

smile... merci à toi, pour l'amitié que tu voues, tes réponses ... j'ai juste envie de te raconter une petite histoire : une dame qui a remarqué que quelqu'un avait volé un couteau suisse dans sa boutique s'est exclamée en parlant du voleur : fait rien, il ira droit en enfer !.... lol
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great message, bravo !

and excellent work !

Excellent compo and message!

Admired in:
www.ipernity.com/group/tolerance

Yessss ! I agree completely ! Merci beaucoup !

Ja, was bedeutet das, wenn ein neues Album sofort 33 Besuche hat, von denen nur 4 von ipernity-Freunden stammen...es macht zornig, wütend, weil men sich ohnmächtig alles Illegale vorstellen kann !

oui , c'est vraiment étrange !! Il y a des robots exploreurs pour les moteurs de recherche; mais 33 d'un coup !!

I know this phenomenon since being at ipernity, Gisela, but it doesn't make me angry as it can have many causes. One of them is certainly the human mentality in general. We can learn to deal with it - and we aren't powerless.
If you're publishing a new album and it's mainly for your ipernity friends, wouldn't an appropriate setting for sharing be a solution for you?

As far as I can see there's only a setting for friends and family or for everybody. It would be good to have the option (logged-in) Ipernity users.

You write: " It would be good to have the option (logged-in) Ipernity users."

This was my suggestion when ipernity was still ipernity S.A. and was headed by Christophe R.. At that time he promised to implement my proposal or request. Unfortunately, this didn't happen anymore. Maybe ima can set it up sometime - when there's enough money left.

Ich kann mich Gudrun nur anschließen. Sonst hat man wirklich nur die Wahl, alle Kontakte auf "Freunde" zu setzen und seine Alben nur für diese zu öffnen. Wozu gibt es dann Differenzierungsmöglichkeiten?
Das erwähnte Album hat inzwischen 55 Besucher, von denen nach wie vor nur 5 ip-Mitglieder sind. Meine Bilder sind mit viel Aufwand individualisiert, und da stört mich eine solche Entwicklung schon! Bei Postkartenmotiven ist es mir dagegen nicht so wichtig, weil solche Bilder keine eigene Handschgrift zeigen.

Another differentiation - here, logged in contacts and/or ipernity users - would really be an advantage, not only, but also to minimize the risk of the photo theft. So let's hope that ima will take up and implement this topic in due course.

I agree! Great job you did with this note.

Unfortunately necessary in view of continuing and increasing copyright infringements inside and outside ipernity.
There it' s a real benefit seeing a proper and so also exemplary observance of copyright and the implementation of license regulations when using foreign material, as with you.

It is a constant battle to keep my photos from being misused especially for commercial purposes.

Sad thing, Ron, but ideally, this constant battle has at least one advantage - if you don't give up.

I fully agree! Basically- if you don't want your photos to be stolen, don't post at all. But at least reduce size.

Reducing the image size is one possibility. Another possibility is to reduce the resolution, even if all this doesn't offer 100% security against image theft. But it makes your own pictures less appealing to thieves.

Yes indeed. I know of a couple of mine that have been copied and misused (not from ipernity), despite having watermarks on them.

Here too, sad to read, George.
Watermarks, whether superficial or invisible or copyright notices, are in fact no obstacle for thieves - neither inside nor outside ipernity. A modest protection in our own hands is, as mentioned above, the reduction of image size and resolution to make our own images less attractive to picture thieves. But of course, even this doesn't deter institutions or people who think everything that's possible is also allowed and interpret internationally applicable laws as they please. However, in the end their arrogance doesn't pay off, for there is no cause without effect.

Hi * ઇઉ *. This is really thought-provoking. I would never have considered that anyone would want to use my photos in this way or why, so it has not concerned me. I am now thinking maybe I am a little naive, but it is awful not to be able to trust people. How would you know if they have been used if you don't use social media or actively search I wonder? Thank you for the warning. Have a good weekend

My pleasure, Carol. I think it's only fair to bring the resistance against the theft of images (and/or texts) to the most efficient level possible, especially since various institutions support or promote the misconduct of partly unsuspecting private individuals for reasons of profit. Have a good weekend, too.

je partage entièrement cette idée;bon we

I do not give everyone the full resolution, then the damage is not great

That's true, Leo.

Have a great day.

Thank You!

Have a great weekend.

Ich möchte zu der Diskussion ergänzen: Sobald ihr einen Bilderklau bemerkt, könnt ihr über ein Tool, das von der Rechtsanwaltskanzlei Dulden / Röttger zur Verfügung gestellt wird, einen gerichtsfesten Screenshot machen und ein Abmahnverfahren einleiten:
ggr-law.com/urheberrecht/faq/bilderklau-und-fotoklau-im-internet-was-kann-man-dagegen-tun

Thank you very much for the link, Bernhard!
Is the law firm internationally active? But okay, everyone concerned can check that for him/herself.

During my work for the group "Ipernity Frontpage & What's Hot!" I've just found again an ipernity member, who suggests foreign pictures as own, " © All rights reserved", without attributing the true source and the true author... Cheeky and incredible - but unfortunately true.

At this point, I'd like to point out again the possibility to report such pictures. In the lower right next to "Authorizations, license" is to read "Report as inappropriate". Images that don't comply with ipernity's rules, copyright and licensing terms, etc., can be reported there. However, one should insert clear references such as the link to the respective original in order to make the infringement verifiable for the ima team.

Another possibility is to inform the true author of the obvious violation of his copyright by another Internet user (here, ipernity user). Everything else is then in the hands of the infringed party (Here again, insert the link, but this time to the stolen picture).

Wie kann ich feststellen ob Fotos von mir geklaut worden sind, Bernhard (Titel in Suchmaschine eingeben)?

Hi, Uli. I'm not Bernhard, but I'll gladly give you information as I've to deal with copyright infringements and/or the violation of licensing regulations on a daily basis and try to raise awareness of this topic here.
There are several image search engines - with different advantages and disadvantages - that you can integrate as an add-on into your browser, for example, Firefox. I myself work with several in parallel to have the highest possible security. One option would be "Who stole my pictures?", for example (it's one of the most well known). Not used by me personally, but contains several well-known image search engines.
Select one of your images, right-click on it, select the desired search engine in the window that opens and click left. At "Who stole my pictures?" you can also open all search engines simultaneously. It also offers further options.
If one of your images has actually been stolen, you will find out using at least one of these search engines.

Hello * ઇઉ *, please excuse me, that I called you "Bernhard" (he's a nice guy ;-) ).
I thank you very much for your answer and the explanations. I'll try it!

You've indeed addressed your question to Bernhard (Bergfex), so also used the right name. Therefore, in this respect, there's nothing to excuse, Uli. ;)
However, I hope you both don't resent me for having replied in his place, because here in my gallery - as well as elsewhere - I'd like to sensitize for this important ongoing theme.
Good luck to you.

Thank you for your visits and kind invitations. Have a good week. Best wishes

All the best.

Thank you, Ron, all the best also for you and your loved ones.

Thanks ever so much.

Oui, je suis à 100% d'accord avec ton avertissement...il peut servir.. il doit servir..!
mais il est nécessaire à mon humble avis de faire le plus possible
pour que l'on ne puisse plus voler les photos..
J'ai beaucoup de mes photos que GOOGLE m'a volé quand j'étais sur Panoramio..!
je les retrouve dans des sites de recherches..
un exemple.. **mes papillons**... si tu cherches un certain type de papillon
eh bien tu retrouves de mes photos car déjà je les reconnais mais en plus elles
sont toujours signées... par** ROL/Photo ou avant Roland**
mais cela ne se passe pratiquement plus.. je me suis séparé complètement de Google..
toutefois... les photos qui passent sur EXPLORER.. google les prends quand même..!
En tous les cas merci pour ton avertissement.. je serais encore plus prudent..
Bon W/end

Thanks, Roland. Yes, it's good and right to be as careful as possible - not only with our own pictures.

Have a lovely weekend and many thanks for your visits and kind invitations.

Thanks for the information on stolen images. Much appreciated

Congratulations on Explore.

Have a wonderful day.

merci pour l'information,

Danke sehr, auch für den Link

Total agreement. Have a wonderful weekend!

Have a lovely weekend. Becoming more aware now so thank you.

Thanks for the visit a week ago but the photo will not add to the group.

It is apparently a bug, Ron. I renew the invitation and hope that the acceptance will then work as with other members so affected. Please try "accepting" again.

Have a great day.

Thanks for all the latest invites to Frontpage.
On the subject in hand...what about non-comercial usages? I download lots of copyrighted stuff just to use as screensavers on my desktop or just to look at, for the sheer pleasure of it; and dozens of interesting texts for my research, not to mention snippets found on online papers and magazines.
Also, why pick on Yander alone? Google, Bing, Yahoo et al are as bad.
Closing the balancing act: the makers of the film Avatar lifted the plot straight from an Ursula K LeGuin novel (although they changed a few things to make the story more palatable to American audiences) and they didn't even give Ursula a credit, let alone a copyright fee.
You might have a valid point or two, but you're being too strict, rather selective and also a tad messianic in tone. There are far more important battles to fight in the world right now, wouldn't you say? :-)

It's theft, plain and simple.

Thanks for your questions and thoughts, Dolores.

Pictures, graphics and/or texts, etc., are always the property of the author, even if they don't bear a copyright notice. Use for private purposes is generally permitted. This means that if you use a work protected by copyright, for example, an image or text, as a screensaver, this is usually not legally attackable, but anything that goes beyond that. But you surely know all that yourself.

I've had corresponding experiences with Yandex, not with Google, Bing or Yahoo. It would be wrong for me to "judge" persons or institutions with whom I've had no comparable experience of my own - or to accept information from third parties without verification.
Sadly, when the creators of the film "Avatar" have really violated the copyrights of Ursula K LeGuin. Sadly, not only because they would give a very bad example.

I'm not the legislator, not even that of copyright laws or licensing regulations. My wording, however, generally follows the respective legal texts. Copyrights, like most other laws, aren't freely interpretable, and the Internet isn't a lawless space. If anyone doesn't like my respective wording, please complain to the authors of the legislative texts - or to oneself - in the event of a lack of self-regulation and discipline ( I think I'm dealing with grown-ups here and should, therefore, be allowed to express facts and truths unembellished - not softened up - as they are: Sometimes unpleasant).

Last but not least: Certainly there are bigger battles in the world, but if we don't start to change something in ourselves, it doesn't help us to want to improve the world. So, who wants or is allowed to decide if and which battle is more important when it comes to truth and justice? In the end, I'm not warning against the consequences of copyright infringements for my own sake, but have seized the opportunity that presented itself to me to raise awareness of the issue. We are here, after all, a photo community in which copyright infringements, including the violation of licensing regulations, aren't uncommon - unfortunately.

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Thanks for the invites but my pictures still won't upload to the group.

Sami and I are trying to find the cause, Ron. Therefore, I'll renew the invitation a little later. Please be patient, and thank you for your renewed feedback.

Still unable to upload photos to the group. Am I blocked or something?

No, Ron, it was only on August 25, 2018, that the opportunity to submit contributions was temporarily closed after my appeal of June 26, 2018, continued to be disregarded by those group members to whom it applied. Please read this post, www.ipernity.com/group/frontpage/discuss/190696.

Thanks for the invite and for the kind comments.

My photos do upload now and I've not violated the rules or tried not to.

I know you never violated the rules of the group, Ron, but I was only able to (temporarily) close the submission process for all members to finally make myself heard by those responsible. Otherwise, I'd have had to banish them, which I personally consider inhumane and therefore want to avoid if at all possible. In future, however, I'll stop discreetly reminding those who violate the group rules via ipermail and instead, as I did two days ago as an example, do so in public. But even that can be read (not only) in my statement today in the group.
I sincerely regret that those who weren't responsible for this unavoidable measure were also affected, but it's the same as always in the so-called real world: We all have to suffer if one or the other people disregard rules of life, natural laws, or man-made laws.
This action has also not failed to leave its mark on me. I sincerely hope that those responsible for the future will change their minds and follow the rules with the necessary attention.

Thank you for your understanding and patience, Ron.

Thanks!

Du hast schon recht. Wir sind bescheiden zu geworden. Ich bin aber mittlerweile froh, wenn mein Rechner nicht gehackt wird. Täglich erhalten wir phishing mails von Kriminellen aus dem Netz. Die haben es auf noch viel mehr, als auf unsere Bilder abgesehen. Wer geht gegen die internationalen Verbrechen im Netz vor, frage ich mich? Und wer sanktioniert es? Daran krankt es doch am meisten.

Thank you for your thoughts, Leo.

In my opinion, mostly thoughtless or unreflective usage habits and a lack of self-protection are the breeding ground for cybercrime of any kind.
As the "crown of creation or evolution", humans are extremely inventive when it comes to ruthlessly gaining personal advantages at the expense of others and/or creation in general. But this doesn't remain without effect, for due to natural principles any attack on life and limb - if it doesn't lead to death - ideally results in the mental and/or physical strengthening of the injured person, as most of us certainly know.

Much appreciated.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Appreciate all the visits and invites.

Thanks for the info.

c'est un sujet "douloureux" il est vrai et je comprends ! de tout cœur avec toi**************

Thank you, Valeriane. Yes, if you yourself are affected by theft, this can really be painful - but just as painful can be the legal consequences for carelessness in dealing with copyright and various terms of licensing - or their disregard.
Wishing you all the best and always good light.

Il était temps de le dire haut et fort et de l'écrire.
Vous devriez traduire ceci en plusieurs langue
Comme on dit en Français à bon entendeur Salut

Thank you, Ramon, I'm happy to accept that suggestion.

* ઇઉ *
!!!! so belated in admiring your artistic, as usual , image but always and more than ever , if possible, delighted by your composition.

I must confess you that if I could , I were able to..I would guiltily copy but... Luckily for you?, for myself ? I know I wouldn't be ever able to do it :-)
Thanking you so artistic and thoughtful warning, I must say : either I don't think anybody would copy any of my photos, or I'm so lazy I wouldn't go searching to find it out.But this is only a matter of mine.
Obviously, on my own, It would never jump in my head to do something like that.

Only once it happened to me to catch and post a work of street artist in Padova and so rightly you warned me that I deleted it

SO: always thank you so much for your wonderful WORK!
Bea

Bea, the artistic nature of your image editing is unique and always soothing, even if I don't comment on every one of your images for a long time. So you have no reason to steal pictures. ;))

However, I'd never have thought that even one of my pictures would be stolen and distributed without permission, and yet it happened, with almost all pictures from my gallery, although - God knows - there are much better pictures in this community. But what is it called? "Even the poor man still has something to rob him of." ;))

So, always thank you too for your amazing works!

I totally agree!!!

Moi, je préfère le plaisir de les voir chez vous et de découvrir ainsi vos univers, à vous et à tous mes amis d'Ipernity !

Well said! I love your artwork too!

Picture theft is a bottomless pit of problems... :(

Eine gut gestaltete, hoffentlich auch wirksame Mahnung!

It's a shame that there are folks who steal images.

OH ! Is that really common ?!
One of the best solutions is probably doing what you do, that is to say posting "small" photographs... It's more difficult to exploit.
Have a lovely new week.

It's quite common, Christiane, but some don't heed warnings.
And yes, posting images in lower resolution and/or smaller size is one of the ways to protect yourself in the best possible way. But even that doesn't protect against people or institutions who want to get rich at the expense of others...
Thanks and have a lovely new week, too.

Independently of the salutary message, and the equally salutary re-union on this happy day, your composition inclines to a real fascination, voluntarily hypnotic, even imperious!
I wish you a nice weekend.

.......vielen Dank für deine Zeilen zu diesen Beitrag und dass du darauf aufmerksam gemacht hast,ich finde deine Umsetzung dazu sehr gut gemacht:))

.......wünsche noch ein frohes Weihnachtsfest,ganz liebe Grüße Güni:))

A valuable hint, I also find pictures of me in places unknown to me and e.g. also at Otto Versandt where they are printed and sold for expensive money...