China will never bow to foreign pressure

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Nobody knows the future of anything. What we can do is prepare the present to have a brighter future. And the Chinese government is doing that.
China has it's own development path. Different than USA, different than Europe, different than any place. And China clearly don't allow any foreign country to interfere in internal organization.
China is not, and don't need to be, Europe 2.0 or USA 2.0.

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For sure China doesn't have any interest to be like any western country.
But "Law of Goodness and Fairness"? Churches? Is this a joke?
"Is all the world jails and churches?!..."

I'm not watching how China develops. I'm part of it.

As a Chinese,thank you for your concern about China!
I'm glad you are part of the development of China.
We just witness the history in our daily life........
More stronger China is,More peaceful the world is-------That's my opinion for ever.

Thank you! I agree with you too!
The west media lies about China. I'm Portuguese and I see that clearly. Makes me laugh some western "news" about China.

"More stronger China is, More peaceful the world is.". I agree completely with this.

Nimen hao.
One thing I am still surprised of is why one's position always need to be black or white ??? I totally agree with the fact that China (as well as India, which I know a little bit more) has to follow its own path, and that we as foreign countries have not right to interfere - but this is true for any other country ... included Africa's !
Has anybody ever doubted that fact ??? Do you really think that any country intends to, not speaking of having the means to, drive China's path to development ?
Looks to me that President Hu Jintao sayings objective is more to strengthen nation's pride (which in my opinion is already pretty high), than to give any message or direction.
I also agree with the fact that a weak China is not a good thing : more developped a country is, the better for its partners and neighbours. However, we foreigners have the right not to agree with some parts of China's acting as a global partner. China's obviously not the devil that is sometimes depicted by western media, but it is still not as white as a new-born lamb. For instance, it is still almost forbidden to any non-resident foreigner to use a motored vehicle (car, motorbike, or such), unless you arrive with your own and you pay a $400-a-day fine. Also, you cannot tell that freedom of thought is really effective ... (just try to come in with an old Lonely Planet : customs will cut out some pages from your book, which are not "authorized"). That, we as foreigners have the right not to accept.

Just to conclude, as always, there is no black or white position about this : yes, it is good that China's developping its own way, but let's hope this development not to be only economical, but will also provide improvements regarding democracy.

[EDIT] : just to add that I really like China, been learning Chinese for two years within China's embassy, got Chinese friends and so on ... I just try to keep a balanced mind.

:) Ni hao! Thank you for your reply.
About China any position is not, and don't need to be, black or white. Red is great around here!
About the foreign interference, as far as I know, China is the only big country that don't want to interfere in internal organization of any country. Chinese government is telling that for a long time.

And, yes. I really believe (and I don't have any reason to think otherwise) that foreign forces keep trying to interfere in China's development path.

About the Lonely Planet, I actualy bought mine in Portugal and brought to China 2 or 3 years ago... and customs didn't cared about that. But the reason why that book is not sold in China is because Taiwan is marked in the map as a different country, and in fact Taiwan is part of China.
And the truth is, that is foreign interference in this country.

Bow to foreign pressure - Western Brandname luxury goods marketing pressure ?

The idea that a stronger china can police the world into global peace and yet not interfere in any other country is way beyond my imagination.

Both the traditional and simplified chinese character for an official "官" is comprised of a hat on top of a double mouth, the hat symbolizes ranking and authority while double mouth means whoever in that position can say things either way.

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I don't believe China wants to be another police of the world.
Like President Hu said "China's position and policies would be based on the merits and demerits of each case". In fact, things are not black or white.

Olá Ruinix! Antes de mais votos sinceros de um bom ano 2009!
Apreciei o teu artigo e comingo do que dizes. Mais uma vez reitero a opinião de que muita gente fala (e escreve) sem saber de facto como as coisas são...Efectivamente há muito que mudar mas, se isso fosse feito como muitos desejam, era uma autêntica catástrofe. E...o Povo Chinês já sobre que baste!... Um abraço. JC

Olá! Muito obrigado! Desejo também um grande ano de 2009 e que venha novamente à China neste ano! :D
São de facto impressionantes as mentiras divulgadas estrategicamente para atacar a China com uma das poucas "armas" que resta ao mundo ocidental, a desinformação.
Este povo não merece mesmo que os media ocidentais façam isto.

While some of the foreign pressure are of vested interest or even malicious in nature, not all are. China will need to find her way and there is no doubt about it. The Chinese people shall ultimately prevail. How the current communist regime tackles all the problems with its obsession for control and disrespect for tradition and education, is for me a big question mark. If the regime doesn't reform itself quick enough, not only will the brain drain continue and the country left with greedy business-minded people and rubberstamp politicians, environmental issues, religious fanaticism, social discontentment and all kind of problems will make China a hostile place to live, all behind a smoke screen of prosperity.

"Obsession for control" and "Disrespect for tradition and education". This is exactly the problem outside China.
Is in Japan where nowadays the schools still call "Nanjing Incident" to the "Nanjing Massacre" where Chinese woman where raped and murder, aweful atrocities were commited and more than 300.000 Chinese people were killed.
This is "Obsession for control" and "Disrespect for tradition and education".

You must have mistaken me as Japanese.

Indeed, some Japanese see themselves as victim of the WWII with the A-bomb, but most Japanese are aware of the atrocities it had caused to the neighbors and that's why there is a huge peace movement ever since. I think the same could be said of Germany which is brave enough to take responsibilities of the evil their forefathers had committed.

Colonialism and imperialism are shameful history of the past. We as children of that sad history should just learn the lesson and move on rather than dwelling on it and create unnecessary animosity. The grass roots anti-Japanese movement in recent years tacitly approved by the Communist government is totally shameful and is politically motivated. Only the very naive would fail to see it.

The Chinese tradition is harmony, tolerance and propriety. Being Chinese myself, I am against any form of extremism and I want the country enter into civil dialogues with others rather than going into self-justifying isolationism.

The problem with modern day Chinese is the tendency to see things in extreme black-and-white. Keep your head cool while in China. Such mentality is extremely contagious. Trust me. I was there.

Every year the current emperor of Japan makes his tribute to the japanese soldiers in the occupation of China. I don't see any peace movement on this... It's something like the current Chanceler of Germany give tribute to the Nazi soldiers?!

And colonialism and imperialism is history of the past?! In fact, it was never so alive.
What's happening in Iraq, Afghanistan or Palestine is showing that to everybody.

'Obsession for control'... You mean like the way the Chinese government handled events at Tiananmen Square in 1989 and continues to suppress all discussion of it?

AHAH!! Tian'anmen Square in 1989? Well, about that Chinese government must be accused of obsession... for truth.
It was an event handled the best way by Chinese government of that time to protect national security. And a reason why this great country still is People's Republic of China.
Imperialist forces did know in 1989 that Soviet Union was ending, the next one was China. Fortunately, it seems it didn't work out like they thought... :)

Very interesting discussion. The western media is famous for its one-sided view of things. There's hardly anything left which deserves the characterization of journalism. This set aside, one should not sanctify China and any other of the big influential economies of the world.

Taking Africa as an example, China is a big player in destabilizing the continent and exploiting its ressources for almost no money. Of course China is not alone in this bloody operation. The whole wealthy part of this world is based on a poor and unstable Africa. Looking at this injustice it's hard for me to respect anything a politician of a leading country like China, USA, UK, or Germany might say. It's all just a big lie to serve a higher, darker purpose and to control and lead the people to a certain direction...

I agree with you about this "journalism", this collective brainwashing in TV's, newspapers, radios, internet. A lie when repeated so many times becomes true.

About Africa, is true that China is replacing in several countries the World Bank and USA because African countries believe the relationship with China is more fair for them than with the others.
It was more easy for China to make wars and attack the countries anywhere they want. Something like USA does everywhere in the world, like this "new" president of USA say that they're going to take out the troops out of Iraq but I doubt they don't keep the control of Iraq oil.

Of course any president or leader is not strong enough to change the capitalistic-predatory humanity to a more peaceful kind of existence. These changes happen in small scale in different societies, where then a time of solitude and welfare occurs. Overally, you can see throughout the history of man-kind that it's just about kill-or die, have or have-not. The typical macho-man rules the world. I believe that we should let women or better mothers rule this world. I know I am an utopist. ;)

:) Yes, women could be the answer!!
But once again, I remember Madeleine Albright or Condolezza Rice, and many others and I remember what they did... There are forces that being man, woman, white, black, yellow or blue don't really allow to change anything.

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Hi,
Xizang? Is a wonderful chinese province. I doubt most of the "Free Tibet movement" actually know anything about that place or ever been there. And definitely have no idea of what was that place when ruled by this dalai-lama.
Learn history not the media.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xsoc4-QnplY

*FREE PALESTINE*

Glad to hear it. Then Hu Jintao will understand that Taiwan must likewise 'adhere to the social system and development path chosen by its own people.'

Of course, in 'adhering' to 'choices' such as this, it helps if a government actually *asks* the people what they choose.

Taiwan asks. China doesn't.

Taiwan island is part of China. It was, it is and always will be.
Taiwan island didn't appear in 1949.

AHAH!! But... there's a normal www?
Anyone that knows something about internet, knows how to access to those and other services. And chinese government knows that too.
But that's just not the point and not the reasons why China block those services. Those services know why.

Do you really know anything about China? Or what you know is what your TV tells you about this country?
In one thing you're right, this is not a political debate. I can only debate China with those who actually knows anything about this country.
And if you knew anything about F****r, you would know that reason. F****r surelly knows.

Yanhuang Chunqi magazine is a nice example of the absurd of the idea the west press try to give about this country. Is interesting because it reveals how some progressive media work in China today. It is very wrong and stupid to assume that it is a black or white situation in China -- that chinese people have no freedom of expression and press and there won't be any until "democracy" arrives in the future.
And your internet or your media didn't told you why F****r is blocked? That's weird... Maybe F****r is not interested in reveal it. Activities of ridiculous desinformation (from them, not from the users) made China do what they didn't thought China would do.

Well, YOU don't surprise me. You don't know what I read or not. Taiwan island is part of China.