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...I started here posting my pictures the ipernity hype definitely has reached an end. Last week for the first time the number of contacts Lea ipernity has, has decreased instead of increased. And it's not just some anyway unknown members, I lost some of my active contacts, cause they quit their account here. And the ones still here are more and more quiet. Even some of the people who have announced on flickr very loudly that they will move to this place show not much activity.
And don't tell me about summer and vacation, they are still active on flickr.
Something is not working here. I'm not sure what it is, but I think it is connected with the poor possibilities to present your pictures here. No groups, only tiny icons of the pictures on the user homepage and the blog entries on top. I think that this leads to the stupid situation that my three line blog entry from last week got ten times more views than my last pictures on average in the last days.
Yes, I like the blog feature, I like the fact that you can upload documents, music or videos, but that's not why I am here. I'm here to share my pictures and that is working less and less, cause only a handful of active people is left. So I think, that I'm still uploading pictures here, is only because it doesn't cost me much effort to do so.
I hope, the situation will improve in future. The big thing will be groups I think, so staff has to do the job soon. It was announced almost two month ago and nothing had happened. And I think nothing is worse than announcing something and not doing it on time. But anyone, for some people it will be too late, they're gone and I don't think they will come back. Hopefully not much more will leave...
Zaphod says:
Translation into italian, german and spanish was announced July 27th "very soon". This is a whole month ago ...
Is there still active developement? Is there still a "team ipernity"?
Leas space also is not updated for more than a month.
Are we riding on a ghost train, driven by an engine without drivers?
I hope not. I hope to hear of them soon ...
manganite replies:
Christophe Ruellepro replies:
we have not communicated a lot lately but we have improved dozen of things. We were waiting for major announcements to communicate. We will communicate soon about groups and other interesting features. stay tuned ;)
manganite replies:
I noticed the small changes, I can imagine that it is a lot of work to get rid off all the small errors and improving the performance. But from time to time one need some big improvement everyone noticed immediately.
Bigoode [Frozen account] replies:
it's a very good community !
Shine on
Zaphod replies:
Allure+Desire says:
manganite replies:
And yes, the layout is really not photo friendly. That has to be improved, i think.
pehei says:
manganite replies:
pehei replies:
manganite replies:
Aref Nammari (goplayer) says:
I have contacted team ipernity about groups and I was told that they are working on it--there only three people and I presume that taking care of ipernity is not their only responsibility--and groups will be coming soon. In the mean time I have created a pseudo-group on my blog www.ipernity.com/blog/goplayer/19122 and anybody is welcome to participate--you don't need to join and you don't need an invitation with one of those animated, stupid and tasteless icons, just post. Others have done the same just look around. In all honesty I am glad that there are no groups here because I got sick and tired of all the tacky and superficial comments and invitations I was receiving while on flickr. Here I know that people who visit and comment on my pictures are sincere and do mean what they say not just filling a quota. I am sorry but if people want ipernity to be flickr maybe they shouldn't have left flickr. I personally like it here a lot and I don't miss flickr the least on the contrary I am glad I left and I am not looking for flickr somewhere else.
pehei replies:
manganite replies:
Never announce something you cannot hold, that's make people feel disappointed :(
Pseudo groups is a nice thing for some time. I made three pseudo groups in the beginning. Very good, but after some days they were lost somewhere in my my blog. Have you seen them or even noticed them? I don't think so...
I think pseudo groups is only a short life thing. you can play around with one group for let's say one week, than the it's time is over. Either it's lost in the blog of the user or it's so full of posts, that even with a broadband connection it takes too much time to load it.
It's simply not practicable on the long term. If we want to have groups, we need real groups, not pseudo groups.
Aref Nammari (goplayer) replies:
manganite replies:
Yes, the point is quality. Of pictures and of interactivity and both is not longer on the same level as it was weeks ago.
And yes, one has to think of how to improve this. But it must be allowed to think first and analyze what is wrong and what is the origin of problems. And for me the problem is, that the page in the current situation is not attractive enough to present pictures, cause they are not he center point of the page layout they get lost somewhere in the overall layout. And something like groups is missing, cause you need a place where people come together, sharing pictures of a certain topic and discussing about them. The blogging function is not enough.
And groups will lead to activity, giving the people the impression that something is going on, That this a page full of life.
geor.g says:
The addictive qualities of getting a hit and some recognition quickly is non existant.
I will continue to participate so that I can keep in touch with old friends.... but... they don't seem to have the same profile here either....... .... ... .. .
manganite replies:
moritz™ says:
I wouldn't complain just because I don't get enough hits on my photos, because I can't expect the same rate of visitors here as on flickr. But I don't perceive this as a waste of time, because I like the more familiar atmosphere here.
Many good photographers aren't active in these photosharing sites anymore. Many of them I miss a lot (such as planetk and brodi). The remaining photographers are still good and to some degree inspiring (although many of them are just copying themselves). But I had to learn that these communities are only a very small part of the real world and that I have to look for alternatives outside the Web 2.0.
manganite replies:
Still I'm patient cause for sure one has to wait, I think, and posting pictures doesn't cost me much time, so why should I stop with it? And if I have time I look around at other peoples streams, searching for good pictures. But that's now much more difficult than it was in the beginning.
ABout the real world you're right. I also have the feeling I need some activity outside this communities. But of course that's not so easy...
Gudrun says:
Those guys have done a great job and I am sure they are working on these issues as we speak.
Team ipernitypro says:
lichtundschattenpro says:
One point is the lack of groups. I'm happy that we will have them soon.
In my opinion the main problem is, that you have no general view on your own and other comments like in Flickr. This prevents communication and discussion.
If Ipernity wants to become a real big and living community, it has to improve this point.
manganite replies:
So if there would be activity, you would notice it. But there is no activity. For hours there are often no new photos, sometimes a whole day no new blog entry, and the most depressing thing is, that the next morning always everything is as the evening before, while on flickr it takes time to check all the new activity...
HarryBo73 says:
That is what I heard in one of my latest meetings, too.
If you say 3 days and it takes 2 weeks then we have to tell the people that it is not there 2 or 3 times. If you say 2 weeks, it is better and then you still can have it in 3 days ;-)
I can imagine that they needed to spent more work then intended to keep the system up and running after the swap from Flickr. That is usually work wish is not seen by the user. But more needed than any group feature, because if the system doesn't work you do not use it at all. But maybe this assumption is wrong and they already had a great infrastructure etc...
I just saw that groups will be launched in 2 weeks with basic features. That was a good decision because give us groups, additional features can be added later on.
But I have to confess that I miss new pictures here. After 3 days of absence, I just found 30 or 40 new pictures the last time from my over 100 contacts. But these are mostly from Germany or France, so this needs to be more international I think. But this was already stated and discussed before. Ok I could just go and look at everbodies photos but somehow I am stuck to my contacts, probably my fault
melpomene says:
i also agree that the blogs should NOT be at the top. that really bothers me and i delete mine after a week (with exceptions) just so they won't be on top. i actually love the design of the front page except for that. i don't like that only 5 albums will fit on the front page and you can't move them around. it pushed the one i wanted at the front all the way to the back and off the page when i put new albums up since last made goes to the front of the line.
i agree a bit about not liking groups over at flickr because i hated that i was forced to comment on other photos if i put one in a group. i also felt like the way to get more comments was to comment more on others. i just don't have the time with the zillion users over there. here i don't have so many to look through and i have time to comment. not that i comment to get comments but over there i rarely got comments. i felt like a needle in a haystack.
well, that's all of my useless opinion ; )
Mahuya Nath says: