open letter to ipernity

Good questions. I hope there will be clear answers!
Go ahead Knut!

Full ack.

I hope you get your answers
And I hope they are not going to do their child-protcetion blah blah and empty promises routine again.
But my hopes are very thin.

Add me.

!!!!!

Hello Knut

Thanks for your questions.

The purpose of ipernity is to host original content. We do not accept photos or videos picked off the Web nor indeed imported pirated MP3’s or borrowed articles from the written press. Feel free to report us forbidden (your'll find a link on each document page).

About "candid shots", here's the rule: photos/video of recognizable people taken unwittingly in a private place and those taken in a public place but with people presented in a demeaning manner are prohibited. Other photos/video of recognizable people taken in a public place without their knowledge are only allowed for PRIVATE sharing.

Concerning nudity: depictions of partial or total nudity in a non-sexual context is allowed for public sharing. Everything else must be shared in private. If sexual attributes are the main subject of a photo/video (artwork or not), we consider it as "sexual".

When we face any content related problem, we use to suspend the related account, asking its member to remove such content or to change its sharing settings. Depending on the seriousness of the case or in case of recurrence, we can decide to terminate the account.

We are still working on a new rating/filtering system. We know that lots of members are waiting it. We put all our efforts into that project to release it soon.

Don't hesitate to contact us if you need further information.

Thank you for using ipernity.

Christian // ipernity Team

*yawn*

Hello Christian,

thanks a lot for your answer!

About "stolen images":
I need only seconds to find stolen images.
For example, a stolen picture of Heidi Klum (photographer: Brett Ratner for the Jordache Jeans campaign) on ipernity.
Another example: You can find this photo from Bruno Bisang
http://dailyplateofcrazy.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/luxuriant-memories-of-sweet-dates-photo-by-bruno-bisang-courtesy-menstyle-dot-fr1.jpg
on ipernity...
And so on...

About "candid shots":
I think, ipernity makes advertising for such groups:
If you click on groups, you can see under "Discover those groups"
sometimes groups like:
"candid girls"
"Voyeurism"

And, what is with porn?
See groups like this:
"(Ehe-) Frauen die sich (draussen) gerne zeigen ..."

So much porn here !!!
And you close the account of Samuel B. ...?

Sorry, but I dont' understand it completely.
Personal rights and original content ist very important.
Art is important.

If you delete porn... ok. And stolen images...

I will be sad, if artists with very artful photos will go away from ipernity.

Best regards and thanks again
Knut

Now I was blocked with no clear explanation, but explicitly contradicting previous statement.

No total nudity as I was told today by moderation. I even referred to this statement. Didn't help. No answer on when the new system would come.

There are two possibilities: either they had (again) completely underestimated the efforts for redesigning the system with multiple cache or they simply don't care. They told us that the system is 80% finished in february, seems that on 95% finish up someone detected a serious big problem. If not, they don't care, because there is a blackboard group to send news for all which have a problem with the current state. But there is silence. Seems for me too, that if they have complains this account shutdown will be processed by a robot, they do no diff between porn or not. The latter is on the other hand consequent: They always claim those "child-protection"-Blah-No-Genitals-Stuff, which is not the decision line between porn or not.
Personally I do not have the problem here with my account, due to lack of "problematic" photos, but I am affected if people I visit are affected. I even think about reactivating my flickr account, is for me no diff if some french robot censr or ami censr are active in a community, especially if they do not have one eye to the quality of pictures they block upon a complaint of someone surfing around in ipernity.
Seems for me too, that those people which might have problems with admins eliminate the admin problem by running their own system. In fact layouts for photo blog systems are often better presenting artistic pictures than here in a "stream" and with those dia flash-boxes without great possibility to layout those flash-boxes. Rests the problem, that you loose the community if you shut down your flickr or ipernity account completely. And it rests the problem, that they were so quite happy to have a refugee for all flickr-pissed-people. They should have been aware that people fleeing from flickr are not those which post always flowers with bumblebees, for christ's sake! In june I have to renew my pro account, dear ipernity staff out there!

Edit: 13 minutes earlier there was the post from ip up there. Again: To do not care about a admin decision what is sexual and what not (which might never be hunky-dory for all participants), we need this filtering system. Fix this and fix it fast, because this is the main problem here.

Hello Knut, bravo pour ton "billet d'humeur" à l'équipe d'ipernity...c'est vrai qu'il faudrait "filtré" :les voleurs d'images, et les rois du mauvais gout :les adeptes des photos pornos. A CHACUN DE NOUS AUSSI de les dénoncer à l'équipe d'ipernity, pour qu'il les vire...
Par contre je trouve dommage que les photos de rue ne soient plus visible qu'en privé...je parle des "bonnes photos" prise au grand angle, et pas au 500mm par des apprentis "papparazzi"...
J'espère que tu ne quitteras pas iper...les ipernitiens perdraient un bon photographe.
Pascal.V

: Darstellungen der teilweisen oder völligen Nacktheit in einer non-sexuellen Kontext ist für den öffentlichen Austausch erlaubt. Alles andere muss in privaten geteilt werden. Wenn sexuelle Attribute das Hauptthema ein Foto / Video (artwork sind oder nicht), betrachten wir es als "sexuelle".

und warum wurde mein account gesperrt mit der begründung das genau dies nicht erlaubt ist ?
nun gut ... dann lade ich gleich heute noch wieder klassische männerakte hoch ... leider wird dann mein account sicher wieder gesperrt ...

If sexual attributes are the main subject of a photo/video (artwork or not), we consider it as "sexual".

Das ist aber dann auch Auslegungssache......

ok, da ist immer eine gradwanderung, zugegeben. aber wenn mein englisch reicht heißt das doch: ein nackter mann mit seinem geschlechtsteil in nicht erregten zustand und auch nicht in großaufnahme wären hier erlaubt.
so, und genau daran habe ich mich gehalten und im zweifelsfall selbstzensur betrieben und sie nur noch freunde / familie zugängich gemacht. warum dann die sperrung?
entweder waren die sperrungen von creaktive und mir so was wie reiner zufall / betriebsunfall oder dann doch mit einer gewissen absicht, die durch die antwort oben aber wieder karikiert wird.

es ist glaube ich bei Ip sehr davon abhängig wer die Antwort gibt, das kann schon mal unterschiedlich ausfallen. Ich hoffe das dein Account wieder frei geschaltet wird... mit den Bildern.

Was die "geklauten" Bilder betrifft so geht der Kampf dagegen schon seit dem Start von Ip, als Standardantwort kommt bei einer Meldung an Ip, man kann nur etwas unternehmen wenn sich der Fotograf selbst bei ihnen meldet und nachweist das das Bild von ihm ist...

Ip... die zu kurze Decke wird von einem Problem zum anderen gezogen aber es gibt nirgends Lösungen.

on peut aussi demander à quoi sert de blacklister un membre s'il suffit a celui-ci de venir incognito pour mettre sa zone avec nos contacts .
ne pourrait-il pas etre permit de ne pouvoir etre vu, au choix, que par des membres dûment enregistrés ou par tous les publics.
une personne malintentionnée peut très bien se servir de nos contacts pour semer le trouble .
les réponse d'iper sont souvent soit evasives soit inapropriées.....
Knut ,pour les photos volées, si tu enlèves les membres qui ne font pas de photos qui leur appartiennent ici tu enleves d'ici tous les gens qui sont venus pour parler quand "yahoo 360 et autres site de chat " ont fermés.
beaucoup ici ne font pas de photo :-((

dreams dear friend, just dreams

Ich spiele jetzt Petze und melde einfach jedes Photo: candid mit gesicht, geklautes und naggische auf ipernity startbilder + whats hot titten. Das gibt eine schöne Arbeit!