We are all Gaza

Thank you Klix. This is a very small action and maybe completely ineffective in bringing freedom to the people in Gaza but I do hope that it will raise awareness and that is a first step.

joined in ...
you can support this too: www.avaaz.org/en/gaza_end_the_siege/97.php?cl_tf_sign=1
infos from the blogosphere: globalvoicesonline.org/-/world/middle-east-north-africa/palestine
www.mecaforpeace.org/article.php?id=288

on Saturday 26th International Day of Action & Demonstration
more on Another World is Possible

well, and as promised I turned out the lights and put on the the candles:



Well, I think that it was quite contra-productive. Not only because no body gave a shit why I turned off lights and instead of them used candles, but also because candles have a notion of romantic and not of deprivation in Germany of today.. You can see even the stronger romantic coming from the blinking lights in the tower building just in front of my flat...
Let's see how it is going end in Gaza. As I know politics in the Middle East in the last 60 years it should end disgraceful for Palestinians.... Israel is already lamenting and say that are not responsible for Gaza any more after the bad bad Egyptians did not stop people from coming across the border to avoid starvation. Starving? Nooooo, Olmert would not allow starvation in Gaza. We give them enough to be just a step before starvation. The world is at the end is going to
comfort Israel for all these impossible things happening in Gaza. I wonder which borders can take the passage of 0.5 million people within a day?? Noooo, this was not a sign that they were starving
It is all a mascarade. And hwo are the winners at the end?

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Klix thank you so much. It's only 15:00 here now and I have some time to go before 20:00. Like you say I am sure nobody gives a shit about what Palestinians--Arabs or Muslims--are subjected to. We are "barbarians" or "subhuman" and deserve what comes to us because we bring it onto ourselves. The Orientalist--in reference to my unknowing mentor the late Prof. Edward Said--spirit is still and well. Nobody gives a shit whether Palestians live or die, or wether Arabs live or die.
Of course those people were not starving. They just did not have anything to eat. They did not medicine for diabetes and other chronic illnesses which of course they were faking it just to get the world to pity them. But we will continue and I don't give a fuck what the rest of the world thinks.

Interestingly Aref, although I am a strong pessimist I see that there no way but continue and there must be some hope at the end. The Syrian Playright Saadallah Wannous who died a few years ago said: We are condemned to hope! The last words of George Habash were after he heard that the border at Rafah fell "One day all frontiers in the Arab world shall fall"

Done a bit late

No matter, the intention counts ;-)

The whole world is not true when speaking of Gaza (or any other war site, for that matter). Most of the time civilized, so-called peacefull countries have hidden trades and are only interested in selling weapons. This is the sad truth. So, please excuse me for my lack of faith, but i believe misery, killing, starvation and war will never end... :(

I agree with you 100% Sue!

We must distinguish between conflict and war. Conflict will certainly continue forever because without conflict there can be no progress or change. This is the dialectic nature of history and of Nature itself. War on the other hand is one way where people try to resolve conflict. Whether that will continue forever or not I am not sure, but I do believe that sometime will have a humane society and world where profit is not more important than life in the general sense not just human life. You may say that I am dreamer, maybe so, but I do believe that things will change. VIolence may never end but that is no necessarily the question. In my mind the deeper question is whether the violence perpetrated by an opressed people against their opressors is equal to that of the opressor trying to subjugate a people? I personally think that there are better and sometimes more efficient means of resistance than the use of violence. Another question I have is if we accept the idea that war is inevitable and will always persist and continue aren't we also accepting the idea that we must therefore produce more efficient and complex weapon systems all under the guise of defending ourselves? I think of the issue in a slightly different manner, the availability of weapons is what makes wars possible. If we eliminate weapons we may not necessarily end all wars but I do believe that it will make the decision to go to war a lot harder to make. The more advanced and sophisticated weapons become the more detached the soldiers using them are from the people at the receiving end. But the fundamental question is not whether wars will continue but what do we do about injustice, oppression, repression, occupation, etc...Can we sit by and do nothing because wars will never end and so it is useless to try to stop it? I am sure that you don't advocate this. I like to think that whether wars will end or not, we have an obligation to stop injustice, oppression, and misery. We cannot afford to sit by watching.

Well Aref, understanding my comment here this way would be contradictory to what I wrote to you as a reply in the same thread. Well first,let us say, I do not know 100% what Susie meant with her comment. I understood it that there will be never peace in this world and there will be always bloodshed and conflicts in the world somewhere all the time. If this is what was meant then I agree with it. I think that it is the genes of the Human Race to be aggressors and kill each other. So, no matter how simple the weapons are we are going to kill each other. There is no way around it I am afraid.
Now, I did not mean that the bloodshed would stop in Palestine (holy land, name it what you wish). Sometime it'll come to an end in way or another (living together peacefully, one people subjugating / assimilating / drive out the other or even exterminating him). I also do not question at all the justice of the subdued to fight against the aggressor.
But do you know what? I do not believe in justice. It doesn't exist in real life. It is a myth.

Klix, I am sorry I guess I was not clear in response which was intende to be a reply to Sue. But regardless of whom it was intended to, I do acknowledge that violence may never end, but I was also considering the issue of violence from a different point of view--is all violence the same or equal? Somw would say yes others would say no.
Submitting that violence is inevitable, another question I ponder from a purely philosophical view point without accusation or finger pointing and insinuation is what is, if any, the moral responsibility of people in general in the face of aggression? I ask those questions from an academic view point. I know and am convinced of where I stand but I wanted to see what others think. I am sorry if I was not clear. My apologies to you Klix and to all.

you don't have to appologize for anything Aref. Misunderstandings are also something that happen much more often than understanding (the same as peace and war, globally seen).
If one would watch the film Munich one would understand that all violence is in a way not very humane (although it comes from the core program of humanity).
Let us think in a mathematical way. An aggressor starts an offensive against another population. There are 2 possible ways to react. Either you defend yourself (i.e. with force i.e. violence) or you run away. So called peaceful resistance is of no use here. If somebody wants to kill you there are no much possibilities to choose. If you choose to run away for good, you practically lost as humans fight usually (like all other animals) for territory. Now, if you fight back either you have to make sure that you exterminate the other or neutralize him completely or your are going to suffer his violent response. This would lead to more violence from your side. So you have morally somebody who unjustly started aggression. And you have also a never ending spiral of violence. Some time you have both sides are losers. Now, I do not know how far is the question of legitimacy of violence important here. Ok, I am not able to answer your question. Sorry, I tried at least!
Interestingly usually after an aggression the agressed who lost loses his land and subdues and get assimilated by the other. In the case of Palestine assimilation of the ones who lost is not accepted. So if they remain themselves they are an enemy entity and they try to assimilate they are not allowed because they are of the wrong race. What are the possibilities that remained then? Maybe you have the answer!