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Here's an email I just received and thought I'd share.....some I've heard before and some I haven't.
Aside from policies we may or may not agree with in the candidates. How much does character weigh in the process of picking your next president?
I don't consider myself a democrat or a republican and I certainly don't want another 4 yrs of the last 8 we just experienced....but on the other hand, I am not going to vote for someone to head our country that has such a questionable background.
With McCain, it's pretty cut and dry. What you see is what you get. He's not unlike most politicians...a flip flop here and there, maybe a bone or two in the closet....
BUT...if I asked myself the questions, "Can I trust this man with the presidency" or " Who is this man"?, they are questions I wouldn't have to ask about McCain...but are constantly popping into my head when I consider Obama running our highest office.
These are a few anti-American's that Barack Obama has had ties with.....as I've said, this is just an email I received. A few ties I've heard about and read to be true....like ACORN, Ayers, and Rev. Wright....the rest I'm going to look further into as to their validity.
1) KHALID AL- MANSOUR:
This man hates America. He hates Israel. In the video he talks about cutting the flesh out of the white man. And says it’s ok! God wants you to do it. This man contacted his rich Arab friends, asking them to write letters to get Obama into Harvard. And asked his rich Arab friends to fund Obama’s education. Now, why would they do that? Watch the video interview with the man that wrote the letter to Harvard on Obama’s behalf.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8npeYfKI_ns
2) RAILA ODINGA:
Odinga claims to be Obama’s cousin.( there is youtube video of him saying that) He forced his way into being the Prime Minister of Kenya. In 2006, Obama went to Kenya to endorse and campaign for Odinga. Odinga promised the Muslim community that he would immediately enact Islamic law in Kenyan Muslim territories, , if they would vote for him. He promised that Kenya would be a safe haven for terrorist. He promised to build court houses in all of Kenya that only recognized sharia law. Kenya is 80% Christian. Odinga lost the election for President. Emails have emerged confirming that Obama was giving campaign advice to Odinga. They had daily phone conversations during that time,. He told him if he lost, to blame voter fraud. And encourage riots. Odinga did, it caused riots where 800 Christian churches were burned. One with 50 Christians still inside hiding. They all died. Here is video of Odinga in a press release stating, that the protest will not stop until I am president. The Kenyan gov. gave in and gave Odinga the Prime Minister spot. Not the presidential spot he was wanting. Thousands of people died because of these riots that Odinga encouraged..THE QUESTION IS : Why is Obama going to Kenya to campaign for this man? Giving campaign advice and endorsing a man that openly said he would enact Islamic law where it didn’t exist before? When asked by Fox News, Obama refused comment. There is supposed to be a story about this on Hannity and Colmes on Monday. Isn’t Obama supposed to be a Christian? When you research this, notice that Odinga and Obama are running on the same CHANGE theme. When you look at Odinga’s website, he say’s the same things that Obama does. Watch this video to the end. Obama’a connections are revealed towards the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S8QcpdUtxNQ
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2101811/posts
3) RASHID KHALIDI:
Khalidi is an Arab Palestinian. He is Anti Israel. Used to live in Obama’s neighborhood. The Obama’s and the Khlaidi’s were friends and had many dinners together. Obama said in his book that he had many good conversations and meals at Khalidi’s home. Khalidi was friends with Ayers as well. Khalidi spent many hours at Ayer’s home. The Woods Fund, led by Ayer’s and Obama, gave Khalidi’s, Arab American Action Network (AAAN), A Group Co-Founded By Anti-Israel Columbia University Professor Rhashid Khalidi thousands of dollars. In 2000, Khalidi held a fundraiser for Obama. Khalidi was a spokesman for Yasser Arafat and a PLO member. When Obama was asked about this man. He said, I know him, because our kids went to the same lab school. He leaves out all the dinners he had at khalidi’s home. And the fundraiser that Khalidi held for him. Watch the videos.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0mixJBRDlPM
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/RashidKhalidi.htm
4) ALI ABUNIMAH:
Abunimah Serves On The Board Of Directors For The Arab American Action Network, An Organization With Ties To Rashid Khalidi. Abunimah, said that he met Obama many times in Chicago at Palestinian and Arab community events. In the video interview, he says that Obama seemed sympathetic to the Palestinian cause. Ayer’s and Obama, as board members on the Woods fund, gave $75,000 grant money to this Arab org. How is Obama going to handle conflicts between Israel and the Middle East, when he is donating money to Arab and Palestinian anti Israeli organizations? Obama’s champaign has denied Abunimah’s account of events. Watch Abunimah’s interview.
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/AliAbunimah.htm
5) NADHMI AUCHI:
Nadhmi Auchi Is An Iraqi Billionaire With Business And Personal Ties To Convicted Obama Fundraiser Antoin "Tony" Rezko.
Auchi Reportedly Built His Fortune Partly "Through Arms Deals With The Iraqi Regime In The 1980s." "Auchi -- Who Lives In London -- Had Been Convicted Of Fraud In France In 2003. "[Auchi] Helped ‘Arrange For Significant Theft From The U.N. Oil-For-Food Program To Smuggle Weapons And Dual-Use Technology Into Iraq.’" Rezko "Asked Certain Illinois Government Officials" To Help Auchi Obtain A Visa To Visit The U.S. After He Had Previously Been Turned Down By The State Department. According To Rezko Trial Testimony, Obama Attended A Reception For Nadhmi Auchi At The Home Of Tony Rezko April 3, 2004. A Source Told The Chicago Sun-Times That "Obama Not Only Gave Rezko's Guest Of Honor, Iraqi Billionaire Nadhmi Auchi, A Big Welcome … But He Made A Few Toasts!". When asked, OBAMA said"I have no specific recollection. [Auchi and Alsammarae] may have been there. I can't say unequivocally that I did not meet them, but I just don't recall." (Sen. Barack Obama, Interview With The Chicago Sun-Times, www.suntimes.com, 3/15/08)
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/NadhmiAuchi.htm
6) TONY REZKO:
Rezko Was Convicted Of Wire And Mail Fraud, Money Laundering, And Aiding And Abetting Bribery. "Antoin ‘Tony' Rezko And Stuart Levine Used Rezko's Influence With Public Officials To Sustain Their Scheme To Collect Kickbacks From Firms That Wanted State Business, Prosecutors Charged. Rezko Was Among Obama's First Political Supporters When Obama First Ran For Public Office. Obama Paid $300,000 Less Than The Asking Price For His Home, While Rezko's Wife Paid Full Price For A Vacant Lot Next Door On The Very Same Day. Obama Later Purchased A Portion Of Rezko's Land For $104,500; It Was Valued At $40,500. "As A State Senator, Barack Obama Wrote Letters To City And State Officials Supporting His Political Patron Tony Rezko's Successful Bid To Get More Than $14 Million From Taxpayers To Build Apartments For Senior Citizens. Obama Completed Legal Work On Rezko-Related Projects. The Obamas And Rezkos Took A Trip Together To Rezko's Home At Lake Geneva, WI. Obama Has Referred To Rezko As A "Friend" Who He Called For Advice On The Purchase Of His Home. Obama On The Rezko Verdict: "This Isn't The Tony Rezko I Knew…" ("Jury Convicts Rezko," Chicago Tribune, 6/5/08)
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/TonyRezko.htm
7) WILLIAM AYER’S:
"[W]illiam Ayers … [Was] A Founding Member Of The Group That Bombed The U.S. Capitol And The Pentagon During The 1970s. In 2001, Ayers Did Not Express Regret For His Past Conduct And Even Claimed The Weather Underground "Didn't Do Enough" Bombings. "Ayers And Obama Guided CAC Money To Community Organizers, Like ACORN (The Association Of Community Organizations For Reform Now) And The Developing Communities Project (Part Of The Gamaliel Foundation Network), Groups Self-Consciously Working In The Radical Tradition Of Saul Alinsky. "The Chicago Annenberg Challenge Stands As Barack Obama's Most Important Executive Experience To Date. By Its Own Account, CAC Was A Largely A Failure. Obama Chief Strategist David Axelrod: "Bill Ayers lives in his neighborhood. Their kids attend the same school … They're certainly friendly, they know each other, as anyone whose kids go to school together." (Ben Smith, "Ax On Ayers," The Politico's "Ben Smith" Blog, www.politico.com, 2/26/08).
NOTE: Obama didn’t have any kids in 1995 When he went to a fundraiser in his honor at Ayer’s home. Ayer’s children are grown. Obama’s kid’s are 6 and 9. Impossible for them to go to school together. Obama clearly lied about his associations to Ayer’s. watch video and read further.
http://www.barackbook.com/Profiles/WilliamAyers.htm
8) ACORN:
"In 1992, Acorn Hired Mr. Obama To Run A Voter Registration Effort. He Later Became A Trainer For The Group, As Well As Its Lawyer In Election Law Cases." "Representing The Association Of Community Organizations For Reform Now (ACORN), Obama And Other Attorneys Sued The State Of Illinois, Forcing It To Implement Federal "Motor Voter" Legislation That Makes It Easier For The Poor And Minorities To Register To Vote."
The Chicago ACORN Received Grants Of $45,000 (2000), $30,000 (2001), $45,000 (2001), $30,000 (2002), And $40,000 (2002) From The Woods Fund. NOTE: From 1993 To 2002, Barack Obama Served On The Board Of Directors For The Woods Fund. Obama was one of many attorney’s to file suit against Citibank in 1994. To force banks to give loans to low income borrowers. This practice of lending to people that can’t pay it back, is what has crashed our economy. And Obama played a big roll in that process.
http://iusbvision.wordpress.com/2008/09/30/obama-sued-citibank-under-cra-to-force-it-to-make-bad-loans/
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qNfRb87dtY4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkUKOSnv2zY
9) LOUIS FARRAKHAN: Is the leader of The Nation of Islam.
In this video, he’s telling a crowd of youth that Obama is the Messiah.
http://hcsfjm.com/
10) Rev. Wright
Dave Griffith says:
JoJo replies:
Midwesternstock ©pro replies:
Cezar /Kaiserpro says:
There is only one alternative, to fight the system itself, to change it radically. Sorry, that I have to say it to you.
Truly, Cez!
PS: Your fact's are a lot of nonsense, blind material for blind people, police stuff, ugly denunciations..Beg your pardon. As photographer you are very good, but your political opinions are not so good.
Cezar /Kaiser edited this comment 13 months ago.
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Arnoldpro replies:
This world will be a better place if each one of us respects the other :-)
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JoJo replies:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=jEOkxRLzBf0&feature=related
Cezar /Kaiserpro replies:
A kiss to Jojo:)!
www.john-lennon.com/imagine.php
JoJo replies:
You're not the only one:))
Cezar /Kaiserpro replies:
A wonderful weekend!
JoJo replies:
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Guido the Anti Christ...Masih ad-Dajjal (Arabic: الدّج says:
all days come one down the "road" and has a good idea
but will not work it self
he search an idiot or two who work for him
thats the "game"
;)))
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Stardrifter says:
Here in Europe we are fighting for our civil rights that our governments want to take us away.
Instead of raising our middle finger towards terrorism we give them what they want: fear and destabilization of our democracies in the name of the "war against terror". We give up the value that our countries were standing for and we are destroying our freedom by "protecting" it. Instead of showing noe fear we let them destroy our societies. Most of the fear here is made up by politicians who want us to believe that there are millions of terroists around each corner.
This whole situation came up after 9/11 and the politic of Bush after it.
Here will be elections as well in a while and we actually dont expect much change. There were too many broken promises and too many situations in which our governments were betraying their citizens. What we see here is that our data is sold to America, that we have to fight in wars that Bush began and that we are treated like terrorists when we want to visit your country which is acutally very beautiful. We see that your border officers are copying our Notebooks and Phonebooks at the border and that we have to give Fingerprints which are stored for almost 100 years. And all that stuff is coming to Europe as well... The country that once was our friend is becoming our "big brother".
So, probably you will understand why most people here see it as a choice between sure pest (McCain) and possible Cholera (Obama).
We dont expect much, but we just dont give up hope. :)
JoJo replies:
I was not familiar with what they are doing with Europeans that want to come and visit the US regarding fingerprints and such. Sometime extreme measures have to be taken when it comes to terrorism, but it seems to me that they are taken to the extremes in the wrong areas too much.
Regarding "Big Brother"...imagine how our citizans feel, if you are feeling this way.
Believe me, I do understand when people say about our 2 parties, "which would be the lesser of the two evils to elect"?
j060702 says:
To bad some of our friends here don't understand capitalism and embrace it. Makes me wonder, why people that hate the U.S. , all want to live here.
JoJo replies:
Guido the Anti Christ...Masih ad-Dajjal (Arabic: الدّج says:
for holidays or business few days or weeks ok the USA
but life forever there
NO SIR
to much different the lifestyle
and not all i can agree on
please not miss unterstand
i allways if i was in the USA (many times) meet friendly and real helpfull peoples
but
many things i not unterstand .... so no option for me life for ever there
JoJo replies:
j060702 says:
Guido the Anti Christ...Masih ad-Dajjal (Arabic: الدّج replies:
normal peoples like use can allways talk
but the political assholes make the war s
;)))
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one good reason for me personally to judge a mans character is on their view of war. Neither are in any means anti war. the notion that the government of Israel is just in their occupying of Palestine is pure insanity. Like Bush's rhetoric on our "just" cause for invading and now occupying Iraq. If we take a look at the Geneva Convention, we are in fact in an illegal war. Bush is committing war crimes left and right. A good book to study is "Global Problems in the Culture of Capitalism." I will be picking this up this weekend and will gladly send you links and the book when done. here is a link on CPA, Coalition Provisional Authority which was imposed on Iraq immediately after the invasion. I think it will sum up the true meaning of invested interest.
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JoJo replies:
In response to the feedback you got from someone regarding the link you sent out:
Yes, many people have been associated with unfavorable characters at some point in their lives and in most cases maybe it wouldn't matter...BUT when we are speaking of someone running for the highest power in our country, then I would say it should be a main concern.
Do you know the reason that Ayers is not in jail for the terrorist crimes he committed? It was b/c of a legal technicality...something about illegal taps were used to get the info to convict him. He is a domestic terrorist and a cop killer and whether he committed his crimes 40 yrs ago or 2 yrs ago does not change what he is. Yes Obama was only 8 when Ayers committed the acts of terror, but the fact that he lied when he was asked about Ayers saying first he had no association with him, then when caught in that lie said he was not familiar with the type of person he was... makes me seriously question is character.
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Great says:
What strikes me as an European, is the major adhesion of American people to patriotic values. To be patriotic is all the more easy as American patriotism coincides with the defense of the ideals of freedom, but it is nevertheless a fact that patriotism is omnipresent, as obvious as the air that one breathes. Add to this the freedom of religion and the respect of one another. The everyday life which results from this is, generally, much more pleasant.
In the televised media, in the press, an authentic pluralism exists which has nothing to do with the monolithic shows that one meets in France. When basic subjects must be tackled, they are without turnings nor circumlocutions, and the diversity of the analyses, in general, is respected. This is not foreign to the fact that American people know often more about the crucial conflicts which touch the planet than average French people. As the country is in election campaign, the debates are often impassioned. The errors made by the candidates screened. That explains the phenomenon which takes place at this moment, the deflation of the Obama bubble, and rise of John McCain.
Meanwhile the French are in general anti Bush. The French traditional anti americanism is undoubtedly irritating and often idiot, but it does not have any importance on the fate of the world.
What has some more, is the policy that Obama could lead in the the Middle-East.
His program comprises – and the essential is there - the precise and fast withdrawal of the American forces from Iraq. Undoubtedly, the politicians do not hold their promises, their strategy consisting in catching the voters as jam catches flies and Obama would not make exception. This being, it will be necessary if he is elected, that he carries out withdrawals of Iraq. However, the progress made in Iraq by the American forces and some of their allies are very precarious. Without the American army, Iraq would fall in less than six months between the hands of Al-Qaida. We would then have an islamist block which would extend from Pakistan, with the atomic bomb, to the shores of the Mediterranean, where Lebanon is no more than a dependency of Syria and Iran, interposed by Hezbollah, as well as Hamas in Palestine. However, the objective of integrist Islam is, as each one knows, to destroy Israel and to drive out monarchies of the Gulf, Saudi and Emirates. Islam could thus control the world by the possession of oil. If these threats became reality, what would occur? Obama or not, the United States and in a general the Occident could not accept such possibilities for obvious political and economic reasons. The war then would begin again and, this time, on an other scale that the one carried out in Iraq. Let’s not speak about the price of oil which would still probably increase as of the possible electoral victory of Obama. The oil barrel at 250 dollars would place the Western economy on the way of collapse.
The ignorance of islamist reality in Occident, in the opinion is amazing. These populations, whose great majority still live in misery, are nourished with an inextinguishable hatred against Occident. For these people, the dream is to remove the Jew, the Christian and the non-believer. A dream for mental patients like Ahmadinejad.
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Aref Nammari (goplayer) replies:
Guido the Anti Christ...Masih ad-Dajjal (Arabic: الدّج says:
just an entry in the thread
without meaning or statment from my side
www.johnmccain.com/RhetoricvsRecord
This site outlines the big differences between what Senator Obama says and what he does.
JoJo replies:
One can't argue with proof.
FLASH says:
NO WAY on this guy.
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snook592 says:
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Last week McCain responded to a woman stating that Obama was an Arab and that's why she did not "trust him" by saying "No mam he is a decent family man" Isn't this statement racist by implying that being an Arab and a decent family man are mutually exclusive? I am sorry to break it to you but systemic and institutional racism is alive and well in America. Just look at the jail population where Blacks and Latinos are way over-represented and blacks are especially over-represented among those who are on death row. Why?
Also look at the poverty distribution in this country and you will find that the ratio of blacks and Lations living in poverty is higher that that of whites. Again the question is why?
Racism is hiding behind abolishing affirmative action under the disguise that we are "all equal" while maintaining a system of privileges enjoyed by whites. I wish we lived in a society where all are afforded equality of privileges and of opportunity, but the sad reality is that we don't and decrying this fact is not racism.
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Aref Nammari (goplayer) replies:
As for yur rambling, thanks for a great laugh. BTW, I don't watch TV and especially not CNN or your favorite channel Fox News.
Here is a link to what McCain actually said.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=DLlIigHg1v0
snook592 replies:
your response
"Yes he did. I am not talking about what he said abou Obama. I am talking about his response to the woman saying that she did not trust Obama because he is Arab. McCains response was "no ma'm he is not...he is a decent family man" this implies that you can't be Arab and decent family man"
Well how should he have responded??
Clear all jails in philly. 5 officers shot all of which by black men. 100% of jail is black do to these murders is this racist????? All but one of these officers were white was this racist??? get grip you fight but you talk with no sense. A 9 year old getting shot on the corner at 1 am isn't rambling. Mc Cain taking Obamas back isn't being a racist. It seems as if you have a problem with being muslim. And there lies the problems of today. If you want to call a church or mosque or what ever a safe haven but then shoot out of it then I say blow it to the ground. But I guess I'm wrong there too. Muslim , christian , jew it don't matter, as we are all trying to go the same place to meet our maker. But when someone says KILL all that don't think our way and then takes offense when people don't like them then DUH!!! what do you expect. But I regress that this topic was not brought up to talk about racism. And if Obama was white it would not play different in my mind. He is like Hilleray and for SOCIALISM and this is not the American way. And anyone can see when you take from one people to give to another to make all equal, That is what it is. When you get your pay check should you give me some since I didn't make as much as you????
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JoJo replies:
I do not support affirmative action...I take it you do? You talk about society being dummied down...you think affirmative action has nothing to do with this? We are supposed to lower the levels of education so that everybody can be given the chance to pass in school or for the same job position no matter what the qualifications are? Why should someone that works their butt off through school working two jobs and trying to make the grade, once they graduate, have to go up against someone for the same position that is only half as qualified but has received preferential treatment due to affirmative action? There is something very wrong there. Isn't that a form of discrimination?
I have worked extremely hard all my life for what I have. I opted not to have children b/c I knew I wouldn't be able to afford them and give them the education that I wanted for them at that point in my life when I was trying to make something of myself. Now that I'm where I want to be, why should I have to forgo some of the "privilages" that I earned and worked so hard for? This is no free ride. If you want something bad enough and you make a goal and study and work your hardest, you will eventually get it. The opportunity is there for the taking. Obama's notion of "spreading the wealth" is a slap in the face to every honest hard working American.
I don't watch much tv either but on the occasion that I do, it is FOX news and not CNN. The entire media are puppets run by the left and FOX, to me, seems to be the most unbiased of all of them.
In regards to a prior comment you made below about Sara Palin..."In the case of his death we will have a dumb bimbo whose only qualifications to run the country are being hockey mom"!! Sara is far from a "dumb bimbo" and has more experience in office than Obama does. Barack served as a community organizer before serving 3 terms as Illinois state senator. I might add a position that he never ran for in the first term, but was handed to him by then state senator Alice Palmer who decided she was going to run for congress. After her defeat she filed to retain the Democratic nomination for the 13th District. Obama was able, however, to successfully challenge enough signatures to disqualify her. He then held on to his position for another 2 terms before running for US Senate in 2004.
Aref Nammari (goplayer) replies:
Yes I am for affirmative action. There is no denying that there is discrimination against blacks and people of color in this country. Years of slavery and later Jim Crow laws have had a devastating effect on the black community and its development in this country. This effect cannot be erased simply by abolishing discrimination without enacting measures to help those who were victims of slavery and of discrimination and to whom education was denied for far too long and who could not afford even going to school because there were no schools around where they lived and had to walk miles to get to one.
You can look at your situation and pretend that everyone lived the same way or had the same opportunities you had.
I was once in bar in Louisiana. That was about 10years ago. Two black guys came in. they were the only black customers there. They sat at the bar and ordered two beers. The waitress served them. They went to use the restroom and the waitress knocked down the beers. When they came back they saw there beers tipped and spilled they left. I saw this with my own eyes. Their reaction told me that that was not the first time it happened, they were used to it or they have been in a similar situation before and knew what to do. Their presence was not wanted nor desired in that bar. Don't tell me that you had any experience similar to these two young black guys. Don't tell that they have the same opportunities that were given to you.
Have you heard about the Jena case in Louisiana? Where nooses were hung from a tree becasue some black highschool kids sat underneath it? The tree was on school grounds but it was understood that it was white territory. This happened not in the 50s and 60s but two or three years ago. Don't tell me that racism has been erased and eradicated. Systemic and institutional racism is alive and well. Just because we swept it under the rug and it is not practiced as blatantly and openly as before it does not mean that it is gone. A few years ago my neighborhood elementary school opened its doors to kids from another neighborhood mostly hispanic because enrollment was not to capacity. There was a huge uproar from some people against the plan. Their argument was that they are afraid that the school is going to loose accreditation because the hispanic children will drag the test scores down. Luckily, we fought this bigotry. This did not stop people from pulling their kids from the school and sending them to private schools. The test scores did not drop and the school is still a very good one. Without affirmative action things like this would happen all the time with the result or increasing the gap between the different races and ethnicities. What do you think about scholarships granted to college students who are first in their family to go to college--their parents haven't had a college education or dropped out of high school. This is race neutral program. Is it fair? Of course it is. Anyone should be able to get an education their circumstances should also be taken into consideration. I would rather have someone who is interested in earning a college degree be given a chance than all the athletes who get all the scholarships and are mediocre scholars. I don't hear anyone yelling against that.
Let them get in and prove themselves. When you shut the door in their face then you are perpetuating slavery and condemning them to a life of poverty and submission or a life of crime. If affirmative action is what you call socialism I am all for it. If I have to pay more taxes so that kids can go to school and get an education rather than paying for to enrich the death merchants (i.e weapons manufacturers) I am all for it because my wellfare depends upon the wellfare of all society.
As for Sara Palin, well I am sorry but she has nothing substantial to say other than one liners and attacks. I have not heard or read anything from her other than everything is the will of god. Well I don't believe in any religion and I find it scary that everything is explained as the will of god. Her experience in foreign policy boils down to Alaska having a "maritime border with Russia and a border with Canada". Big freaking deal: by that standard I have tons more foreign policy experience than she does because I lived in three different countries for extended periods of time and speak three languages. Here is what Colin Powell, the secretary of state during Bush's first term who today endorsed Obama had to say about Palin " 'She's a very distinguished woman, and she's to be admired. But at the same time, now that we have had a chance to watch her for some seven weeks, I don't believe she's ready to be president of the United States, which is the job of the vice president,' he said. 'And so that raised some question in my mind as to the judgment that Sen. McCain made.' "
I said that I do not support either Obama or McCain. However, I find it amazing that people just rely on hearsay and propaganda to make their choice for a president of the country. They do not take the time to educate themselves by doing the research and checking out the facts. I do not excuse Obama and I do not excuse McCain I don't care for either one of them. You are convinced that McCain is the right choice.T hat is fine. However, I hope that you have done the research and checked the sources and all the tales and insinuations before making up your mind. I am not trying to convince you to vote for Obama but I am trying to tell you that the future of the country, our economic prosperity, respect and standing in the world depend on the choices we make and we better be convinced that we are making the right choice not because of fear and unsubstantiated claims. Good luck with your choice and I hope that you make the right one based on real information and conviction.
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Delcour (Forum Libertus) says:
I am not sure who could be the better president for USA. After G.W. Bush there will hardly happen worse (if one forgets Palin after a heart attack of Mc Cain).
Aref Nammari (goplayer) says:
The question I ask is what the fuck does Israel has to do with electing a US president? Is this an election for Israel or for the US?
Rashid Khalidi is a well known and well respected scholar and professor at a prestigeous US University--Columbia University. He is certainly a critic of Israel but so are many Israelis in Israel and many Jews inside and outside of Israel.
As for McCain being "you get what you see" I suppose myopy hampers one's capacity to see clearly. If I may give an advice it would be stop watching Fox News and reading propaganda. I am not an Obama supporter, not because of his associations but because of my belief that his election will not bring a tangible change but would be more of the same politics we have seen for a very long time in this country. A republican president is certainly not any better. This republic has been transformed into a government of the corporations, by the corporations for the corporations. We the people are simply pawns in this game: consumers to keep pouring our earnings into the pockets of the coporations so that a few get richer and richer while the many of us struggle to provide health care for our families, good education for our children and to constantly live with the uncertainty of keeping our jobs. 40 million Americans do not have health care or not enough health care; children mortality in the US is the highest of all the developed countries. Yet some idiots consider support of Israel as a measure by which they assess whether to vote for or against a presidential candidate. What the fuck is happening to this country? The brainwashing, the indoctrination, the dumbing-down of America is complete unfortunately. Welcome to fascism.
JoJo replies:
If you do not support Obama and think McCain wouldn't be any better, are you just not going to vote?
Aref Nammari (goplayer) replies:
Of course I am going to vote like I do in every election. Despite what you and many others think there are other candidates on the ballot.
Your question is precisely what is the problem with the country. We are led to believe that we have to choose between dumb and dumber because as far as the corporations and the lobbyists are concerned they will still have the influence and control no matter who of the "two major parties" is in office. If we want to restore democracy in this country--true democracy not a semblance of it--the debate has to be open and real issues substantive issues relevant to our interests as individual citizens and collectively as a country must be discussed. This means however, that we have to have an informed citizenry. It is sad to say that a handful of corporations hold the monopoly on the mainstream media in this vast country. They decide what we hear, see and read and we are all too happy to think that we are getting the truth. Democracy is hard work. True democracy means getting informed and being critical. It means being able to go beyond the headlines. Democracy is not simply casting a ballot and having entertainment on TV disguised as "debate".
Take a look at this:
news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20081015/sc_livescience/americansflunksimple3questionpoliticalsurvey
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Big Mac or Whopper?
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Anyway, I've found this on internet, but obviously it's a fake !
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www.talkwisdom.blogspot.com/2008/10/this-could-be-game-changer.html
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Sherry ~ Rebujito says:
there are so many questions *for me* concerning both candidates
I could probably pick certain ideas and aspects from each comment made here
and find a considerable amount of merit and even agree upon...
and the election is here...I don't wholeheartedly support either candidate...but
I just couldn't live with myself if I didn't vote...what most Americans DO take for granted
I do not, and never have.
So the next step for me...their running mates
no competition Joe Biden hands down...
I don't think of Sara Palin as a bimbo but MY GOD
she was incoherent in the Katie Couric interview
and in the debate she sounded like a well rehearsed
Stepford wife.
Aref is correct in a lot of what he is saying especially about racism it's alive and well and so insidious even the most *open minded* may not recognize it...or in any case acknowledge it as such...but I do agree yes when McCain corrected the woman about Obama
and said what he did...it does infer being Arab is somehow *bad* and you couldn't be a decent family man if you were Arab...don't you see how his statement or lack of statement, and your and Mike's reaction proves Aref's point...it's so insidious...*we* or many just accept it...it's commonplace...or are deaf and blind to it's subtlety...it's not out and out making that statement but it does make it all the same.
it goes back to my blog about Hillary and sexism we just accepted it...MUCH more so than racism even...
apathy is our worst enemy.
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