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Thousands Of People Take Photos Every Day. What If One Of Them Seems Odd?

Wednesday March 5, 2008 at 05:50PM

Have you seen anyone taking pictures of security arrangements such as CCTV? Has it made you suspicious?

Obviously you are now deemed a "terrorist suspect" in the UK if you go about and take photos of, hm... say... CCTV cameras - because terrorists do so. Says the police.

Too bad for the police that they can't arrest you for doing so. Too bad that they can't even keep track of everyone snapshooting away at the myriads of CCTV cameras. So it is of course up to you as a good citizen to help them out:

If you see someone doing that, we [the police] need to know.

Therefore, dear reader, I need to ask you to point me out to your local police station, tell them not only about my "anti-social behaviour" but also about me being a potential threat to liberty.
Give them this link as proof of my potential terrorist activities.
After all the credo is:

If you suspect it, report it!

And stay vigilant and keep an eye out especially here in this community for more "terrorist photographers".


Thank God not everybody is as paranoid and gullible as those responsible for this campaign seem to hope.
Quite a few people have already taken the "(anti-)terror posters" and redesigned them.
Boing Boing has a collection.

21 Comments / add your comment?

chromatic orb pro says:
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Underscan pro replies:
Not at all if you stick to the school of thought behind it: everyone is a potential threat. Every action could mean something.

But that school of thought could easily be called insane.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro says:
Security through obscurity....

Terrorists also eat, drink and sleep... I dare you!!
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan pro replies:
OMG, you are right.
We need to report all those that display strange eating and drinking habits or have weird sleep customs.
There is no time to lose.

Be very afraid.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Rob Young pro says:
Do you think there is any chance the world will come to its senses any time soon?
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan pro replies:
Define "soon".
I don't see any reversal in these practices any sooner than in ten years - and that is a pure optimistic guess without any funding facts.

Unfortunately even if such a change of practices should occur, the damage that has been done will be enormous. Not only considering laws which have been introduced but also concerning the state of people's minds, since one of the key messages spread by actions as the one I wrote about in this post is: Don't trust anyone. Everyone can be a threat. Be suspicious.

Hence a term I like to use when discussing developments in surveillance, privacy, freedom, civil liberties, etc. is that of an emerging (?) society of distrust.

Along with that goes the development of technologies, esp. in the field of data collection and processing that allows automation of filtering out "potential threats" on basis of statistics and probability calculations.
In this context I am very much spooked by our firm belief in technology and numbers. If an algorithm - which we do not know and do not understand - tells us that (e. g.) Rob Young has a "threat level" of "7.5/10" we will believe in this seemingly "neutral" number and act accordingly.

This then results in the appalling situation where humans don't trust humans any more but firmly believe in their machines. (OK, that sounds kind of Sci-Fi dystopian)

You see, there are tons of aspects one could consider in this debate. What I am trying to say as a response to your remark: so many variables of so many different fields are involved that I don't dare to give a prognosis - but the sheer amount of possible terrible outcomes worries me, to say the least.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Virtual Lover 1™ pro says:
there was a man on the plane i feel i should have reported. mistakes can be made both ways.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Virtual Lover 1™ pro says:
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan pro replies:
OMG, 93 pictures, 45 members.
That must be a terrorist _organisation_!
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Henri Banks pro replies:
yes and i am head of the organization :-)
Proud to be a "terrorist photographer"
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
rollinger says:
we have some "1984" group or something here?
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan pro replies:
Not sure, there are some groups concerned with CCTV in particular.
That's one of the things about surveillance: it tends to be "invisible", only few measures can be photographed or otherwise made "tangible".
Not only is the effect that many people are not aware of this surveillance, but also that "invisible" surveillance is even more effective than visible one - the principle of the Panopticon.

Still, somehow I feel relieved due to the fact that most people I meet and tend to find congenial share the same "scepticism" - same here now. :)
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
exilpaelzer says:
If terrorists wanted to take our freedom away, they can now lean back and enjoy.

Bejamin Franklin understood: "Those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan pro replies:
They could lean back ever since the "War On Terror" was proclaimed. I don't see any individual or group _ever_ threatening the existence of a nation state [1].
Such a threat will IMO always arise from those "in power", from the "leaders".

BTW, concerning the (alleged) Franklin quote:
antiterror.blog.de/?s=franklin&submit=Suche
[in German]

__________
[1] Propagandhi: And We Thought Nation-States Were A Bad Idea
www.g7welcomingcommittee.com/discography/g7007.php
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андре pro replies:
I doubt that terrorists would have these goals. I don't think terrorists are purely destructive, it does seem so, but you don't live just to destroy, you also want to create something.. in the end. I really doubt there is a master plan of destabilizing the western societies and then take them over or such. That's just ridiculous. So in the end some seem to be disgruntled and full of hate, but I doubt that can be said for all of them.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Henri Banks pro replies:
Benjamin-Franklin .
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Henri Banks pro says:
when i grew up i was a punk and i didn't had respect for authority i was against the church, Government, and of course the cops,Movements like the red brigade,ETA ,RAF,IRA got my support,till i got older and the world was changing to,it is not good that the Government try to suck you down its not good that they get so much money and when you see what they do(childish behavior in TV)We in Europe have many problems and we have to work on that.
Whats not fitting here is the Muslim movement they better be silence ,search for the paradise in there own countries because we cant give it to them.I have so many words in my head but i am not a writer i just wish for a better world in Peace (damn i sound like a f... hippie)
I give you all a hug ;-)
Henri
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan pro replies:
Whats not fitting here is the Muslim movement they better be silence ,search for the paradise in there own countries because we cant give it to them.

I don't see such a thing as a "Muslim movement". I don't see such a thing as a "clash of cultures".
I see a world becoming ever more connected, cf. Ipernity, without a common, universally valid set of ethics and thus resulting misunderstandings and confusion.

I therefore reject any form of blanket "the $group_of_people want to tell $other_group_of_people how to live" perceptions because that only cements the notion of confrontation and conflict.

IMO there are reams of individual people out there all trying to find some sort of anchor in this world, some sort of "community" to belong to.

i just wish for a better world in Peace (damn i sound like a f... hippie)

ACK. :)
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Henri Banks pro replies:
you are right the Muslim part didn't fit in that comment :-/
but i still we have more peace on this Planet (damn i still sound like a f... hippie)
LG
Henri
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )
Virtual Lover 1™ pro says:
good and bad in all races and genders- bottom line.
Posted 8 months ago. ( permalink )

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