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Ipernity Feature Ramblings - "view as slideshow" for other "image collections" than albums

Thursday February 28, 2008 at 02:32PM

= Background =
One of the really nice features on Ipernity is the "view as slideshow" option for albums, which you can even watch in an animated fashion and/or with a "music carpet" (what is the proper English word for "Musikteppich" anyway?).

I won't dig into questions about extending this functionality [I'll do that in a seperate post:)] with things such as full screen display etc., but rather discuss "porting" the slideshow feature to other forms of image collections than the "classical" album.

= As-Is State =
Currently to create a slideshow - other than showing all docs -, you have to create an album and assign certain images to be part of it.
This has the benefit that you can also define the order of the images in the album/slideshow to e. g. create suspense.

= Suggestion =
Now what I think would be a nice extension of the whole slideshow concept would be if not only albums could be displayed in this fashion but also other forms of image compilations, i. e. via tags.

Selecting a tag right now displays all documents in the current user's profile relating to it as thumbnails or in a detailed view.
From here you can also go and "Explore this tag" to see all docs&posts Ipernity-wide in relation to this tag.

I suggest adding another option "view as slideshow" that would generate a slideshow displaying the tag-filtered images.

This way one could get an overview of "content-related" pictures that do not share the same album, which I think could be very interesting.

= Implementation =
I assume it should be fairly easy to implement (although I have no knowledge of the backend code, so I might be totally wrong).

The URL for an album-slideshow is:
www.ipernity.com/doc/$member/slideshow/album/$album_id

The URL for a sort by tag is:
www.ipernity.com/tag/$member/keyword/$tag_id
www.ipernity.com/tag/$member/profile/$tag_id

There seem to be two subcategories here to differentiate between "regular" and member tags.

So the URL for my suggestion would look something like this:
www.ipernity.com/tag/$member/slideshow/keyword|profile/$tag_id

Here tag instead of doc clarifies we are dealing with a tag-sort, whereas keyword or profile limit it down to "regular" or member tag kind. The $tag_id finally defines the concrete tag analogous to the $album_id.

Extrapolating from the URLs I assume database queries as well as the code should not be too laborious to adjust.
[Again, I am mostly guessing here, so please don't hate me for my ponderings, Ipernity coder(s)!]

= Possible issues =
As it is - to my taste far too - often the case people might feel they are losing "control" over what is done with their works. After all they have not defined such a filter to create a slideshow - other than when creating an album.
I do not think this should be an issue at all since people do provide the possibility of filtering their works when tagging images. If they are then displayed as thumbnails/details or in a slideshow manner - to me - does not make a great difference.

On the other hand it will allow greater flexibility and new forms of exploring collections of images.

 


In the "Unofficial ipernity Ideas and Wish Group" Roberto Ballerini in October 2007 posted a short entry titled "[GROUPS] Different viewing mechanisms" in which he askes for the possibility to

view a slideshow of a group pool or to look at the pool shots in a bigger size than thumbnails

This is kind of the same idea I tried to explain in this post but with focus on the sorting criterion "belongs to group".

5 Comments / add your comment?

Roberto Ballerini - travelingpro says:
A good idea.
I think that, after latest docs, albums/groups have to be the next area of intervention for the team: reordering, further "views", hierarchical groupings, groups of albums, albums uploaded to groups, blog posts to groups are all ideas that need further evaluation in my opinion and that can do the difference between Ipernity and the other social networks/photosharing sites in a more web 2.0 way

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Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )
Underscan replies:
Thank you for sharing your opinion and supporting my "ramblings".
I guess we all know how easy it is to come up with ideas and ask for certain features to be implemented - the actual work then is up to the "lonely coder".

This said I believe you have a very good point in emphasising what could make the difference for Ipernity in comparison to other photo-communities.
It seems to me that most somehow have come to a halt in their development - so this could actually be a chance for Ipernity.

I also agree with the "roadmap" you line out in terms of what should be addressed first.
In my blog ramblings on features I would like to see there is one about optional borders around images - stuff like that is really "neat to have but not vital" and thus maybe worth consideration when everything else is done. :) [Too bad, cause I'd really like to have that]
I have other things on my "mind list" like implementing a panorama viewer (e. g. the FLOSS PTViewer by Helmut Dersch, creator of the PanoTools) etc. but that is probably sugar on top. :)
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )
chromatic orbpro says:
Nice explanation. I also felt the need for this kind of functionality. But for me, before expanding the slideshow to other areas, i think the slideshow widget could use some improvement, like a way to favorite a photo and better interaction.

BTW: One way to "workaround" slideshows on every page is by adding supoport for piclens, as is suggested here.

BTW2: I think the word you were looking for is "background music".

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Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )
rollinger says:
Last week i thought about the same thing. I don't wana hear "slipknot" to the pictures from a holiday at tuscany
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )
Virtual Lover 1™pro says:
good ideas. i'm really anxious to see slideshows in groups.

i enjoy the slideshow feature of my main page and albums.
my body of work gets to be one long movie unfolding as i experience it...i do wish for the ability to rearrange docs tho, sometimes i have to repeat uploads to get the order of my 'movie' right. a problem for limited users and people with limited time.

"music carpet" (what is the proper English word for "Musikteppich" anyway?).

music carpet sounds enchanting, perhaps you mean what we call the soundtrack.
i now prefer music carpet, brown bear cub. - thanks, josie

music, peace and love
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

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