renovatio06 Published on August 2nd, 2007
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Havana

Thursday August 2nd, 2007 at 09:30PM
A classic. The epitome of romance. To me - better than the old black and white classics, starring Bergman and Bogart. Go see it (Havana! Not Casablanca, of course...) - period. Over 'n out.

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renovatio06 says:
If nothing else, we can at least watch some movies together in the turret. "Julian, care for a drink as well?" ;-) (Oh, Sherry, I think there are even more people in this room...)
This is a reply to Sherry ~ Rebujito's comment.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Julian replies:
I'd love a drink Werner, a nice cool Cider, or a Caesar, or a glass of White Merlot? And this movie sounds great, Casablanca was always a favourite of mine!
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink / translate )
renovatio06 replies:
Then you're likely to love this one at least just as much, if not even more ;-)
P.S.: I totally forgot about your drink, Sir... Forgive me, it's my first day as a waiter ;-) "A white Merlot it was?" ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Julian replies:
I just looked this up on IMDB as I was looking at others (see your other post). I now have to rent this... I just noticed who is in it! Lena Olin! I have to tell you, I had a bit of a crush on her from the first moment I saw her in "The Unbearable Lightness of Being", not a very good movie though, and "Chocolat", a great movie. Don't tell anyone though! ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
I won't tell a soul, Julian! (Especially given the fact that I feel the same way about Lena Olin ;-) But then, I just found out that - apart from being really, really beautiful and well gifted with talent - she's 5'11"... - to tall for me anyway, so take a shot :-))
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... says:
Hold on you two!!!!!!!!! Can't ya'll take this private!! MYYYY GGAAWWWWWWWWDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD. Sherry I KNEW you was a huzzy...but Werner....well...you are a man...nevermind! ;))Kiddin' of course...on both parts! ;))
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
Yeah, Sara, I'm afraid being private when dealing with Sherry is somewhat of a challenge, as she just confided her being loud-mouthed in me... Gosh, would have never known, hadn't she told me LOL ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... replies:
LMAO....poor Sherry can't help it. It just all comes out...whether she means to or not. Loud mouth or not...she is VERY fun...especially since she confirms...she is a huzzy. LMFAO!!!!!!!! ;)))
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... says:
AND............why the fuck would i want to see a damn romantic love story when I am sitting over here by my gd self?!?!EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEewwwwwwwwwwwwww!! Okay...whatever...All for love say YAY.
.......................................
All who say it sucks big ones say NAY.

Hell-FUCKING NAYY!

Sorry to spoil the party...leaving now...
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
jurmerga says:
Oh, then I`ll start with the song: "Your LOVE like wine tasting sweeter to me everyday and your kiss divine and it melts the cold inside away - all of my life I’ve been waiting for a LOVE like this....." nanananananaaaaaaaa :-DDD and would be glad to watch Havana, would you let me join? Though I like Casablanca, but I have already seen it :-) SO ;-DD

P.S. BINGO, Werner, that`s it :-D today I listen to that CD all day long from the morning :-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
If you like Casablanca, Jura, you will also love this one :-) And to give you a little taste, here's a great line from the movie: In the end, when all the turmoil has somehow settled, she goes to meet him one more time and asks him s.th. like, whether he had been waiting for her and she means in that café, where they meet. Whereupon he replies: "All my life". Awwwwww ---- huh? :D

P.S.: Snowfall on the Sahara ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
Might have to be listening, too, Jura :-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... says:
Ohhh No...it's looks like we are turning Werner into what we did to Sascha!!! He just FINALLY throws his hands up and says....there is NO WINNING WITH THESE TWO!!! LMAO....its okay Werner...we still heart you man...even if you can't comment!! ;))))
This is a reply to Sherry ~ Rebujito's comment.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
I just can't step in on time, since I'm asleep when you two have the "comment war" going (on second thought: Probably a good thing, just being asleep, while you guys fire away commenting LOL).
See, Sara, that's where the beauty is in watching these movies, even when you're watching them alone (which is the default case for me as well, mind you): They're still moving, talking to your heart and if nothing else, remind you of having one, right? ;-) (Hurry now, the video store won't be open all night :-P)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... replies:
Well...my ass should be asleep, since it's 2:30am...but yes, you are right...we would have WAYYYY too much fun, if we all three started the "comment war" (very funny btw!).

They're still moving, talking to your heart and if nothing else, remind you of having one, right?
I think you are trying to torment me here, right?!?! Gawwdd...make me sicker...I like this thing i have learned a LONG time ago...its called DENIAL!!!!!!!!!!You put it away...In a box(what i call it) in your head and you never effin' find it again. Hummmm....but I can be happy for those who are happy and in love...yes..yay for you...but for me...NOOOO!! :)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
I feel similar, Sara. However, in that case I got another movie line for the both of us, this time another one of my ever growing list of all time favourites, "The Fabulous Baker Boys" (playing in Seattle b.t.w., which may have been one of the major reasons I wanted to see Seattle for myself this spring LOL). Michelle Pfeiffer, female protagonist, says: "You think you got this empty space in your heart, where you keep putting all the trash. And you keep doing this, until you feel really empty inside." Let that not happen to us, Sara, I say :-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... replies:
Similar? Havana?!?! Lovestory?!?! Nooo...you don't feel similar and that is okay...really. You go...do your thing...be in love...I encourage it to everyone else...but not me....almost wanna say Never here...but I know what I do when I say never. So I will almost say...almost never.
My movie has to be funny or i ain't watchin' it. No fuckin' love shit for me. Sorry...i got enough sadness to do both me and you good for atleast a year or so. ;)

Funny...i just told you not to be negative...hehehehe...see I can give great advice...just don't apply it to self. WTF is up with that?
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
I'm saying this as politely as I can, but you didn't get me here, Sara - or I haven't made it clear enough. But in fact, I feel EXACTLY the same way about the "love shit" as you do - I am in the midst of saying "Never" - and being as hard a head as German Krupp steel, I might even be acting that way. You don't trust me? Ask someone, who knows - they know...
Anyone trying to be close to me - as a friend, a business liaison or even ( I almost don't want to say the word...) lover - they have to be prepared for me givng them as hard a time as can possibly get. I mean, if you came on to me, I will try to crush you and smear your remains over the pavement for having tried so...
You need any more proof? Geeez, I fucking KNOW what you're talking about and never - EVER again - say, I was not being serious. You have no idea...
(How's that for negativity? Think you can do better? Test me, bringt it... LOL)

P.S.: In order to make some sense of this: That is exactly why the only place I allow myself some romance is in those movies: Have someone else take it out on each other, you know? It's a safe place for me and I still get to feel something from the visitor's seat - you see? Because, like Julian, I'm afraid despite all negativity I'm a helpless/hopeless/aspiring romantic, as sickening as it sounds, I know...)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... replies:
Okay...I wasn't really "doubting" you but more hoping you were not to that point that I am. Trying to give you hope or something. Ohhh and you want me to bring it..hehehehe...I got some negativity for yo ass. I think I could win any day of the week...AND not even have to try very hard...lmao. ;)))
I used to be terrible at this...what you are talking about...anyone who *tried* to be close to me...I would crush and stomp on them...especially if they were the "nice" guys...ohh man...it was a challenge to me...I wouldn't think twice about doing it....*dogged them out* (don't know if you know that saying) until...UNTIL....i met my fucking match...which was the first man I ever truly loved. And well....he was a fucking pro...what can I say....and it took me years to get over him. This is sad...but I never really loved my ex-husband...most people...like on flickr or wherever...when i talk about being hurt and the pain some have caused...they automatically think...ohhh it must be her ex husband or her children's fathers. Nope...they caused me lots of inconviences...because they act so fucking stupid....but my heart doesn't or hasn't ever ached for them. I learned from a VERY early age how to shut my emotions off and I HAD to do that in order to survive. I was with my children's dad because well, I had made some mistakes, and was trying to do right by my kids. Nothing else. I was trying to do the "right" thing...even if I had to sacrifice myself. And...obviously that doesn't work or my ass wouldn't be single.

Funny this is...NEVER once have I felt that I have been loved by someone else other than my children. That is so fucking foreign to me that I wouldn't recoginize it even if they did truly love (I hate..HATE even typing it..OMG!) me. I have almost accepted it. That i am just unlovable/ unable to give love. The only two men that I have ever loved...never loved me back...or maybe I didn't/couldn't recognize it like i said....and I let NO ONE get close...except these two...and will NEVER...I SAY NEVER...do it again. I think it's how...when kids are young...they get soo fucked up by their parents and their surroundings...they are so vulnerable...that is how I am with emotions...i am vulnerable so I have this thick ass wall up that has being adding layer after layer for 25 or so years now that no fucking one will tear down. Just a fucking fact....i am unlovable and unable to give love. Fact. :)) Gotta write something else..but wanna post this first.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
Denial, is what it's called, Sara. Self-denial to be exact. I know it, been there, still working on it. You see, it's funny: Almost every behaviour we display as we're "growing up" (whatever that means, noone has ever compellingly defined that to me...), any of our behaviours is either copying what we saw as children or what we were trained to do. That's right, trained as in Pavlov's dog, because it works the exact same way. And guess who trained us? Right again, our parents or whoever was responsible for us (and society to a degree). So your self-denial is a direct product of that "training".
Recently, one of my doctors is doing his best to convince me of his conviction AND own experience that anything can be "untrained" again. However, it may appear a lot harder than the training, as a) we are not as young and eager to learn, b) we have to do the untraining all by ourselves (or most of it). It's tough and bitter, as we get the feeling "What the fuck did I do to anyone to deserve this?". I know, trust me, I know so godamn well.
First step is to get rid of the idea to be unlovable. Take your kids for example and work from there, e.g. if *they* can love me, *I* eventually can as well. Not right away, and not in one giant swoop or so, but eventually, by going through an iterative process of only *allowing* the thought/idea of being someone who can be loved by someone else. Then dismiss it. Then allow it again. Dismiss-allow-dismiss-allow... until allowing it becomes more and more familiar (because the denial was the familiar thing where we started...). You see?
To back it up and make the process more productive, whenever you have allowed yourself to be loveable, do something extra to "reward" you - like a manicure, a day at the spa, a movie, for god's sake a bar of chocolate, if nothing else is availabe. DON'T think "I don't deserve this", but "Hell, I've just accomplished something here - I should be rewarded!" - and then do it. Reward yourself.
You see?
It may and most likely will take a few years from here, but I'm beginning to think myself "Hell, yeah - it CAN be done...".
Awright?
(How about a bar of chocolate to reward yourself for reading through this? ;-))
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Julian replies:
I miss a lot of this commenting too, one with the time difference, two with just trying to stay off of Ipernity so I will get some work done!

As for the turret, the acoustics up there could be interesting, and with a Grand Piano in there... and if Werner's taste in music is the same as his taste in movies, me thinks we'll all be up in the turret listening!

As for these kinds of movies, I agree with Werner! Even when I am on my own it helps me realize that my being alone is just a transitional thing! That a movie can make me feel... make me cry... tells me that my heart is still open to wonderful things! I've been called a Hopeless Romantic, but I know in my heart that I have always been a Hopeful Romantic!
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
There's nothing in terms of Grand Piano like a real Steinway! I happened to be in the city today and rented some music equipment for my editor-in-chief, who is going to marry on September, 1st. While I was there, I also *had* to check the digital piano section, where they had one, which was made in the shape of a grand piano. I mean, the feel to it was pretty close, but the sound... uh-uh... no, Sir. It would have to be the real thing :-) Together with wooden floors in Sherry's turret and only little furniture, the sound should carry on throughout the house... (which might actually disturb the rest of the tennants Sherry will assemble there LOL).
Taste of music? Pretty varied, but anything along the lines of the great modern day jazz piano players will do (not meaning to indicate that I can really play that well...), e.g. Herbie Hancock, Dave Grusin, also a guy named Greg Philinganes, a great sideman to Anita Baker and part-time member of Phil Collin's band, too - and just about anything with interesting harmonies and kind of a groove going.

Guess, we'll be sharing the "Hopeless/-ful Romantic" label then, Julian? :-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 says:
I'm a recluse, Sherry, mind you... I might come visiting, but no need to kick me out, because ... I'll be staying at a hotel :P
This is a reply to Sherry ~ Rebujito's comment.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Julian says:
This is going to sound totally stupid... and you can all laugh as much as you want, but let me tell you a story...

A long time a go I got involved with someone who lived 10 hours away from me. One night she called me on my cell while I was at the video store trying to decide on a movie to watch that night. She asked me what my choices were, what I was leaning towards. I mentioned "I Dreamed of Africa", and she said "Yes... get that!" I was surprised at her reaction and said "What does it matter, unless you're calling me from down the road?". She said no, she wasn't down the road, but we can still watch a movie together... she told me to get the movie and that she would call me later, and all would be revealed!

That night, after dinner, she called. She told me that after we talked, she quickly went down to the video store and got the same movie. She told me to put my phone on the coffee table, put it on speaker and get the movie going. LOL! We even synced the two movies up, so that they were playing at the exact same time. We had popcorn, crackers, drinks, we talked, laughed, cried... critiqued the acting, just as though we were together. I felt very close to someone that night that was over 700 km away... and it was a movie that did that!

Maybe we should have a movie night! :-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
I think, that's a great idea! With Skype being available now and Sherry having managed how to connect her camera to it, you might even go as far as have an almost side-by-side experience - over cyberspace! LOL

Right, movie night over the Internet (errr.... sounds a little bit like "male group action" in the shower on second thought, LOL)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 says:
Aye, Ma'm!
This is a reply to Sherry ~ Rebujito's comment.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 says:
P.S.: I just learnt something from this post: It appears that the less words I post, the more comments I get ... LOL (awwww, of course, I know - it was the subject ;-))
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
... replies:
Stop it!!You're being negative! You are a great writer...speaker...communicator...give yourself some credit Werner. Hehehe...take that advice and shove it...in your BRAIN!!!!!! :))
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 replies:
*shoving away and choking on it* LOL
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 says:
I just did :-) Still enjoying your birthday, Sherry? What'cha doin' in the front of the machine, when you're supposed to party like it's 1999? (Given that you don't look a hair older than 27 anyways ... ;-))
This is a reply to Sherry ~ Rebujito's comment.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 says:
Funny... - I don't know how, but this entry apparently made ipernity's What's Hot-page. Hm... Is their algorithm really working well...? ;-)
P.S.: Even funnier as I believe this to be just about my shortest post ever ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
renovatio06 says:
I think, I have a better idea: How about the original, "Willy Wonka?" ;-) Sounds like a perfect match to the box I sent - errrr, that is, if there is any content left. If yes - save it! And let's watch the chocolate movie :D - What do you say?
This is a reply to Sherry ~ Rebujito's comment.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )

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