David de Groot Published on October 29, 2007
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Scanner Woes

Monday October 29, 2007 at 01:15AM

Well after six years our aging HP flatbed scanner is rapidly showing signs of imminent death.

Thus I'll likely be in the market for a new one quite shortly. So, what I'm after is recommendations :)

Here's what I need:

  • A4 sized document scan in a flatbed configuration
  • 35mm and maybe larger negative scanning abilities
  • High resolution for the negative scanner, preferrably multipass, 24 bit colour minimum
  • Must work with Windows AND Mac (OS X 10.4)

Added bonuses would be:

  • Works in Linux
  • Networkable  (this would be very very handy)
  • Automatic document feeder
  • Duplex scanning

 

Those last two are just pure icing, it'd be nice, but I'm not going to pay a small fortune that could be better spent on camera gear for them :)

21 Comments / add your comment?

Rob Youngpro says:
This one is getting a loot of good reviews, but I don't know if it meets all your needs.
www.epson.com.au/products/scanner/perfectionv700photo.asp
But it is a little pricey.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
Thanks Rob,

Yes, I've been googling around this morning and have found this to be highly thought of. It is at the upper bracket of my budget though, but if it does the job then it may be the go. I've discounted the Canon varieties (8800F etc) as there is a known issue with the software driver and variable size transparencies.
The Microtek i900 is also well thought of, but WAY over budget (about $1200 Au).
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Rob Youngpro replies:
I bought a Canon and it turned out to be useless at B&W negatives. To be fair though, I believe they are about the hardest thing to scan.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
The Nikon Coolscan II I have here does a semi-decent job of b&w neg scans, but it's resolution is pretty ordinary (2700dpi @ 8bit) and it only does a single pass scan, and will also only do 35mm or single mounted slides. It also is not a document scanner, which is of much more interest to the rest of the family than a few negatives/slides ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Shaun Johnston says:
I saw a similar thread on flickr. Some guy recommended an Imacon (now Hasselblad) Flextight ;)

Seriously though, I've also read good things about Epson in the price vs quality stakes. I have a Canon 8600F. Not sure what you've heard re: variable size transparencies? Admittedly the images that come out of it are a bit dodge ... optimal res for me seems to be 3200 dpi and that requires some USM in post processing. I've been using Vuescan as opposed to the CanoScan drivers and it appears to produce a much better result (will post some results shortly). What theoretical max size negative are you going for?
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
Well at the moment only 35mm negatives or 35mm slides or 16mm slides (I have some old 16mm slides lying around that were my parents). Plus probably some prints that I don't have negatives for.

However, who knows what the future holds, maybe medium format ?

This sort of thing for the Canon - www.lemis.com/grog/product-reviews/Canon-breakage.html

Apparently it's still an issue in the 8800F according to other reports on the net.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Shaun Johnston replies:
Haven't had the boundary recognition problem with slides, but I've all but abandoned the CanoScan software - Vuescan is superior in everything except dust and scratch correction (and even then CanonScan is patchy in its performance in that regard).

I've uploaded some recent film scannage from horizon 35mm exposures, and some decidedly middle-aged slides taken with some sort of shoddy kodak thing in the 60s then left to rot in a humid store room then garage for 40 years.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
Well the scans look pretty good, that's for sure. I'm still leaning towards the Epson though for various reasons. There's a HP (G4050) that might suit as well but it's reputed to be ok quality compared to the Epson and very very slow.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Shaun Johnston replies:
I saw the G4050 and almost fell for the '6 colour channel!' line they were selling, but I checked out some reviews and apparently it doesn't make much difference at all and it's a pretty mediocre film scanner.

If I could muster up the cash I'd be going for a Nikon next, but supposedly the Epson 4990 is king of the budget range.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
picsbymac says:
The Canon scanners are fine when the decide to warm up and work. I have a sneaking suspicion that the Canon gurus are in bed with Apple and deliberately designed their scanners to be cranky with Windows systems. Slides are very hard to scan with the 8400F. I use CS2 over the canon software. The Vuescan is okay but to my eyes the scans aren't quite as good.

About format - plan negative sizes bigger than what you think you may use. Aside from the crankiness of the Canon, I'm eyeing an Epson because I'm also eyeing large format cameras for their tilt-shift-perspective control capabilities. A year ago I wouldn't have thought I'd be where I am now.

Check the manufacturer's websites in Australia and see if they sell refurbished items. Epson does in North America for good discounts.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
No mention of refurbished items on the Australian Epson site when I looked (might have missed it though), but a good idea all the same :)

Since I run a mixed shop at home (Mac, Windows and Linux) I'd prefer something that worked reliably in at least two of those, so I think I'll just pass on the Canon scanners. They make great cameras, but their software isn't too crash hot (for instance, Lightroom is miles ahead of DPP).

As for large format, who knows? I still have a few bits to pick up before I can develop 35mm at home, but once I've got that, it's not such a leap to move to other formats.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Shaun Johnston says:
BTW, I found Vuescan somehow pulled out a lot more tonal range than the bundled CanoScan software, and also Silverfast SE. I actually bought Silverfast SE with the expectation that it would employ a dust and scratches algorithm only to find out that it didn't support it on Canon scanners. Disappointing. It also produces a quite inferior scan to Vuescan. I might post some comparisons tonight.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Shaun Johnston says:
www.microtekusa.com/smi900.html

Seen that? Unjustifiably expensive in Australia ($1300-1400). Done a little enquiring, can get it from the US for $USD520 (or through a vendor on eBay for ~$490), shipping about $USD180 USPS or $USD450 for 2-3 days.

I don't understand the Australian prices at all.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
Scary isn't it ? I'm really not sure why the Aus. prices are so much more, given the strong Aussie dollar, etc...
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
jayavant says:
my scanner's plug-in has ceased to work since i upgraded to leopard. fortunately vuescan works but i don;t particularly like vuescan....
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink / translate )
David de Groot says:
Which scanner is that Greg ? (memory like a sieve I'm afraid)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
jayavant says:
it's a microtek scanmaker i700
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
jayavant says:
i have rigged up my old g4 powerbook 500 (titanium) next to my imac - sharing the one keyboard and mouse - just so i can use the older OS (tiger) to scan. it works well... but i m getting tired of scanning. i need a 4x5 enlarger.
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
Ah but what will you do with all those prints ?

You'll need to start a gallery just so you have somewhere to put them ;-)
Posted 2 years ago. ( permalink )
Steve says:
Hi David. Did you decide to go with the Epson?

I've been happy with mine, and there were updates for Leopard. I didn't have problems under Leopard with the supplied drivers to start, but upgraded anyway. Since then I've had updates to Leopard - now at 10.5.2 and no problems.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )
David de Groot replies:
Still waiting on usable funds Steve. In the meantime I'll just bide my time.
Posted 21 months ago. ( permalink )

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