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Ipernity TOS

Saturday June 23, 2007 at 03:46PM

Can somebody explain me in easy words, what exactly Inpernity can do with our stuff regarding to their TOS?

5.9 By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Service, you grant Ipernity a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to reproduce, adapt, distribute and publish such Content through the Service, including RSS or other content feeds offered the Service, and other Ipernity services.

5.10 In addition, by submitting, posting or displaying Content which is intended to be available to the general public, you grant Ipernity a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to reproduce, adapt, distribute and publish such Content for the purpose of displaying, distributing and promoting Ipernity services.

Stewie just pointed it out to me and I'm a bit lost

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DonDahlmann pro says:
Ok -RSS is obvious,because RSS is a content service, which will bring the docs into the web outside this plattform.

5.10 is a little bit strange. Lets ask the guys from Ipernity.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro replies:
I'm too tired for that tonight, if somebody else steps in, just let me know, if not I'll ask about it in the morning (can barely find the letters on the keyboard...yawn...)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Carsten pro replies:
5.10 means IMO that they can do anything with your image if they use it for promoting Ipernity without asking you or paying. I think it doesn't mean that they can sell your images, or so.

So basically here they can make money out of it in the way that they can gain new users...

5.9 I would interpret basically as the right to offer you the service of showing your posts to others ;-)

But it might really be good to ask Ipernity guys. Esp. 5.10 looks overcomplicated and partially doubled with 5.9 to me. BTW, what does the French version say?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro replies:
I was wondering about the French version too, but my French is way too rusty.
I helped them working on the English / German membership rules translation and had to look up the French one from time to time. Some things just didn't make sense.
Might be the same here.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
lichtmaedel replies:
Hmm. I am a little bit concerned about 5.10. , not sure that I like it. Hmm. theoretically they can do anything with the pics if it has just something to do with ipernity.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
derlinzer says:
5.10: maybe covers public access via API. Doesn't eg. Netvibes allow streams of certain tags, groups, users? I don't know if this is done via API access, but i don't think it's done via RSS.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
phojus says:
I too would like clarification. The RSS thing is obvious but the way it's worded is slightly worrying. I expect that no ill-will is intended.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Kiff ta race says:
according to the french version, i underdtand that you allow them to show anywhere your stuffs in the ipernity(5.9) and allow them to use any of your stuff for their promotion,... also only in the ipernity (5.10)
(at the top of the page : www.ipernity.com (hereafter, the “Service”))
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro replies:
That would be fine with me :)
Thanks!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Paŭl Peeraerts pro replies:
Yes, that's how I interpret the French version too.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Robert_K says:
5.7 says: "Ipernity claims no ownership or control over any Content submitted, posted or displayed by you on or through the Service. You or a third party licensor, as appropriate, retain all patent, trademark and copyright to any Content you submit, post or display on or through the Service and you are responsible for protecting those rights, as appropriate."

5.9 and 5.10 are just there to prevent people from claiming money for putting their pictures on Ipernity's main page [= internationally promoting Ipernity services].
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Carsten pro replies:
In that context it sounds reasonable.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
HAZIPICS pro says:
ok, we ll post only serious things ok...
;-)

but If anybody copy and paste your pics ....that s the same problem
all you poste on WWW in open for everybody ( legal or illegal )
@ nicole what s the time delay?
sleeping at work is not good gg
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro replies:
I'm one hour ahead. And I'm a freelance housewife :P
Time to go to sleep now, hubby is already in Dreamland :)

Sweet dreams everyone (or a good day / night ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro says:
Hey, the visit count shows now how many illegal, I mean anonymous visitors have been here :D
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
thodue pro says:
here is the tos of flickr/yahoo. look at point 9. - seems pretty much the same, that they can use the stuff without paying for self-promotion.

info.yahoo.com/legal/us/yahoo/utos/utos-173.html
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Blue Silver says:
I'm afraid it's the same everywhere. I know a contact from flickr whose photos were taken by **oo without asking him (But I don't know the details, he didn't want to tell). From then on he didn't use tags any more and made all photos only visible for friends and uploaded them in a small version.
...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
thodue pro says:
Blue, you can be sure, that it is the same everywhere - compare the tos of flickr/yahoo and this place. one problem is, that most people don't or didn't read them, me included. i was upset when i've read, that i had given a royalty-free-license to flickr/yahoo. when i took notice of it - last weekend - when i was checking out this place - and the rules in the tos are similar.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Stewart Leiwakabessy says:
Oops! Sorry for sending you out into the woods, but I'm pretty curious as well. I'll contact ipernity themselves one of these days, to have things cleared out. IMHO it's only for their own use -- promotion wise that is.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Jesus Presley says:
The words: non-exclusive, royalty-free and are most important. And for the purpose of displaying, distributing and promoting Ipernity services.
Especially non-exclusive means that you can still sell your stuff to someone else.
And anything that goes beyond promoting Ipernity is not part of the contract, therefore not allowed. They can't resell your photos or use them as stock photography to gain money.

IMHO: nothing to worry about.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro replies:
Or use them like yahoo did to promote stuff that's not yahoo related :(
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarine pro says:
Das sieht mir genauso aus, wie bei Yahoo. Erinnerst du dich an die Sache mit wii, und wie da ploetzlich Fotos mit vollem Copyright von Yahoo fuer Werbung benutzt wurden?

Flickr-Stewart hat sich hinterher dafuer entschuldigt, und sie haben es dann geaendert, und nur noch Fotos mit CC Lizenz dafuer genommen.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
NicoleB pro replies:
Ja, aber die Werbung hatte ja zum groessten Teil gar nichts wirklich mit yahoo zu tun, oder?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarine pro replies:
Soweit ich mich erinnere, hat Yahoo fuer wii geworben, und die Fotos dafuer wurden aus Flickr gezogen. Und zwar alle Fotos, die wii als Tag hatten - ohne Ruecksicht auf Copyright oder CC Lizenz.

Das hat mich damals dazu veranlasst, meine Bilder aus der API Suche bei anderen Webseiten UND bei Flickr selber zu nehmen.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
NicoleB pro replies:
Grauslich.... :(
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Jesus Presley says:
Aah, die story kannte ich noch nicht. Aber letzlich sollte man nur kleine Bilder auf solche Communities hochladen, max 800px pro Seite. Dann kommt man aller Wahrscheinlichkeit nicht in diese Gefahr.

Das Recht am Bild liegt sowieso beim Urheber. Sofern man seine Bilder mit vollem Copyright ausstattet, können solche Bedingeungen in den TOS es nicht aushebeln. Aber es muss natürlich irgendwo festgehalten werden,

I didn't knew about this wii story before, Anyway, it's best not to upload photos bigger then 800px largest side. If you claim your copyright in the description or by choosing the right license-type, the TOS can't ignore this setting, because you are the author, and you decide about the rights on your work.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
NicoleB pro replies:
Das ist das, was mich am ruebrbeamen stoert.
Zwischendurch sind immer wieder Bilder im Originalformat da. Naja, muss ich halt fie Festplatte nach denen absuchen ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
limone replies:
yes, that's one of the reasons why all my pics are available in 800 px on the longest side max.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
NicoleB pro replies:
Ja, das wuerde ich auch gerne so machen, wenn mich die Kroete beim ruebrladen von flickr die Groesse aussuchen lassen wuerde. Ansonsten sind die neuen eh im Kleinformat oben ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )

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