With the advent of digital photography and Photoshop, it has become much easier to process and manipulate images. While darkroom processing, in the analog days, was a necessary step to actually get the images - be it in film or in print - digital technology allows for instant images.
I have heard many people argue that one should keep the photographs "as they come out of the camera", as if this was the "true", "pure" image, capturing "the real thing", and any sort of processing is actually distorting reality in some way. It is clear to me that using any camera always introduces some kind of processing, be it in the "analog" hardware of ealier cameras and film, or in the hardware/software combination in modern digital cameras. In other words, there is no such thing as "real" to begin with! While documentary photographers try to capture real happenings, we all know they can be as manipulated as any other kind of image. The belief in their authenticity relies much more in people's interpretation of the images than in the actual authenticity of the captured pixels. As Pedro Meyer puts it, “Face it, all photographs are and always have been the product of manipulating reality. They are simply interpretations of the photographer who made them,” (see his book The Real and the True: The Digital Photography of Pedro Meyer, or read a review for excellent discussions and further references on this debate)
[Update: I have since found this excellent article on Creativity, by Eddy Sethna. It is worth reading!]
So post processing a photo is like introducing one's own "authoring" into the image, in addition or in substitution of the camera's processing. To me, it is as an integral part of the creative experience as the actual shooting of the photo. The question remains, though, how much processing to do. Some will argue that fixing image properties such as contrast, sharpness, saturation, colors is OK, but removing or adding elements is not.
Personally, each image I make is my interpretation of a reality I lived, which I try to communicate to others. Sometimes I feel it to be quite "factual", but most of the time colored by my own memories, feelings, emotions, past and current experiences, either at the time I took the picture of at the time I am processing it. So if I feel I have to add or remove something, I will do it. I don't have any commitment to being "accurate" or "real".
Many of my photos play with these perceptions, showing how the eye can actually seem images that many would consider manipulations. This is especially true with reflections, as in this photo
I am constantly fascinated by these images, which are all around us, and many don't see them. Others may be actual manipulations - which I don't do very much - but in any case I don't think this is so relevant; what matters is the feeling, emotion, idea, or message being communicated.
In some sense, the message here is somewhat similar to the one in the famous Magritte's painting "La Trahison des Images (The Treachery of Images)", which bears the inscription "Ceci n'est pas une pipe"...
So, my friend, what is your opinion on this subject?
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Aurelio Asiain says:
Anna says:
Sometimes, when you look at a picture right out of the camera, you think.."That's not how I saw it." I know for me, if it just doesn't look like my interpretation of what I saw, I am going to whatever I have to make it look right.
You keep up the wonderful work my friend!
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Bigoode [Frozen account] pro says:
post processing or not
our discussion must be beyond this point of argue !
Let's teach to "old school photographers" how to frame perfectly and let's teach to "post processor" how to use filters in photoshop !
It's no more time for such argue in my opinion ...
cause it's a non ending conversation ....
manganite says:
A problem appears only if you fake something and declaring it as reality, but that's more a political or even criminal discussion, not a question of art.
ecstaticist says:
David de Groot says:
However, since I shoot raw files, all my shots are processed in some way, even if only to convert them from raw to jpg for upload.
There is a place for photo manipulation, it's an art in itself, but there's also a place for straight documentary photography where it's expected that no manipulation is done at all (for example, news photography).
Daniel Schwabe pro replies:
For example, a particular framing may leave out an important part of a scene, sometimes conveying radically different messages. In this case, wouldn't this be as manipulative as deleting this part of the scene in Photoshop?
David de Groot replies:
Selective framing to make a particular point is really something that comes down to the integrity of the photographer, whereas editing a photo for publication (even if just cropping something out) reflects on the integrity of the publisher (not necessarily different people).
I suppose an ethical documentary photography will photograph the scene as it is, regardless of how the scene may not reflect his/her attitudes, whereas an unethical photographer may selectively compose to push a particular viewpoint. That is of course an over-simplified statement, but will suffice for this discussion I think.
Daniel Schwabe pro replies:
James Rye says:
ypell says:
And then there is subjective or artistic truth, which is quite different from the scientific one: given the same photo of, say, a crime scene, an investigator might process the image to make all available information visible. An artist, on the other hand, may actually reduce the objective information content of the image (by darkening it, for instance) in order to enhance the emotional power of the image.
viages pro says:
Having wet printed from negatives many year ago , rest assured there was almost as much post processing done years ago..........dodging, burning, tilting base boards, combining negs. etc. etc.
The fact that the image is captured with a camera is part of the processing and different setting and camera's give different results to reality anyway.
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Pat Hayes says: