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Google Translate + ipernity = new power "translate" feature

Tuesday July 8, 2008 at 01:18PM

ipernity is proud to enable the first social mashup of the brand new Google Translate API.

Members and visitors can now request "on the fly" translations of posts, comments, discussions, descriptions, iperMails... written in foreigner languages*.

 

Translation is made from/into 23 languages*. Of course, automated translation is not perfect but we are convinced it brings ipernity members and visitors a real added value for a global understanding.

Thanks to this new feature, ipernity becomes the first social internet media facilitating exchanges between people from various horizons ;-)

(*) Arabic, Bulgarian, Chinese, Croatian, Czech, Danish, Dutch, English, Finnish, French, German, Greek, Hindi, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Norwegian, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Russian, Spanish, Swedish. Esperanto and Catalan are not yet supported by Google Translate. We'll add these languages as soon as we find translation services with free API use.

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assbachpro says:
just saw it :D very cool idea
oh and very cool you sent out a tweet directly!
twitter.com/ipernity/statuses/852800610
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro says:
Is there any way to keep the link from showing up directly under my pictures?

First of all, it doesn't work for me - it's just an lead to the picture itself (#), and second: If I want to translate my text, I usually do it myself anyway.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
assbachpro replies:
what about your visitors? they can use the link. it's not for you (only) i think.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
Like I said: If I want my visitors to read the text in English, I will translate it (manually!) myself, as I am strictly opposed to automatic translations - and since years preaching against them.

I am constantly helping people to understand how an automatic translation works, and that it's in no way a substitute for a manual translation. And I just don't like the link under my pictures.

This has nothing to do with the very helpful new feature under any given comment, though. THAT is cool!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
assbachpro replies:
i know what you mean, and i agree to the "look" or placement of it, but what about saying it in a nice way? and still i think it will help a lot of ipernitys users.

anyway, maybe it's an idea that the team can add a preference for this to appear or not.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
Sorry if my comment came across as not being "nice". I thought simply asked if there's a way to disable this feature under my own pictures?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
Are you talking about aesthetic considerations?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
Not only those.

So far, the link doesn't work for me. If I click it, nothing happens - and sometimes there is not even a text to translate and the link seems to be unnecessary.

And also, I often write funny comments in dialect. When I feel my English speaking visitors should understand them, I translate them myself. In these cases, the automatic translation would be completely wrong anyway.

And some of my pictures have bilingual text already. There, too, the link would be redundant.

Bottom line: I would like to make it an option, not the default.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
Okay, let us think about it...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
Thank you :-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
Update: Now, that the bug is fixed, it doesn't seem so bad anymore, after all.

I noticed if the text is already in English, and I click on the translate-link, there's a very nice message:

This text already seems to be in your language. According to Google ;-) - I can live with that.

And under the bilingual text it's actually pretty funny to compare my manual translation with the automatic Google translation - just what I have been preaching for years ;-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
It was a bug: now fixed!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андреpro replies:
–– Das ist die Übersetzung die Google vorgeschlagen hat:
Okay, lassen Sie uns darüber nachdenken ...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
StuartForsyth.com says:
Very good idea, saves me doing it manually :)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андреpro replies:
–– Das ist die Übersetzung die Google vorgeschlagen hat:
Sehr gute Idee, spart mir tut es manuell:)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Doomshammer says:
Nice! Really cool idea! Especially for a french-loser like me ;-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
manganite says:
Das ist ja toll! Ab jetzt alles nur noch auf Deutsch ;)

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Tupelo Honeypro says:
I would also like to have the possibility to keep the link from showing directly under my pictures.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
There was a small bug: the translate link appeared even if the description was empty.
It's now fixed: the link appears if there is a description only.

This is what you wanted?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
That explains one of my concerns. Thank you, I'll look again ;-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Tupelo Honeypro replies:
Thank you, it looks better now.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
The bug still seems to be there: If a picture has notes, but no text, I can still see the link, but clicking on it doesn't do anything (example)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Iljuschinpro says:
Cool. J´aime bien d´utiliser les langues que je peux parler (un peu), mais ca peut aider!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Bernardpro says:
Une fois de plus BRAVO et MERCI à l'équipe d'Ipernity.

Juste une question : le lien "traduire" n'apparait pas sur tous les commentaires et jamais sur les réponses aux commentaires. Est ce normal ?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Team ipernitypro replies:
Le lien "traduire" apparaît :
- lorsque le texte semble être rédigé dans une langue différente de celle que vous utilisez pour surfer sur ipernity
- ET lorsque le texte est rédigé dans une des 23 langues supportées par Google Translate

Sous ces 2 conditions, le lien doit également apparaître pour les réponses aux commentaires.

En revanche, quelques minutes sont parfois nécessaires après qu'un commentaire ait été posté pour que le lien "traduire" apparaisse.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
colsopro replies:
Oops, the translation engine shows a little hickup. While it works well with the two french comments above, it shows error:5 when I try to translate this comment. Has it anything to do with you folks of the Team Ipernity? ;-) Btw thnx again for this helpful gadget.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
It was a bug. Fixed!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Bernardpro replies:
It seems to work now. Thanks a lot.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андреpro replies:
Huch, Google konnte diesen Text nicht übersetzen:
Die Übersetzungsautomatik hat diesen Fehler ausgegeben: error:5.

Which translates to:
Oops, Google could not translate the text:
The automated translation returned this error: error:5.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Hannes Trapppro says:
cool! but why doesn't it work on this page?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
It should work. Here are the rules:
- there is no "translate" link if the text is written in the same language you use to browse ipernity
- there is no "translate" link if we cannot detect the language or if the detected language is not supported by Google Translate
- there is sometimes a delay (a few minutes) between the moment when a comment is posted, and the moment when the "translate" link appears. This delay depends on the availability of Google Translate services.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
When I want to translate your french text directly above, I get the error message:

Oops, Google has not been able to translate this text.
The translation engine's sent back the error: error:5.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Team ipernitypro replies:
This bug should be fixed now.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
HeikoBe replies:
@Hannes Trapp: Es funktioniert doch hier! (Translate this!)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
lichtundschattenpro says:
Thank you. Great gadget.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
♪María♣ says:
yeah yeah yeeeeeeeah!!! very good idea! Thanks a lot team!

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
nib!pro says:
Cool, mal schauen wie gut es funktioniert.
.. muß ja jetzt nicht mehr selber übersetzen ;-))
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarinepro replies:
Aber besser verstaendlich waer's trotzdem ;-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Carstenpro replies:
Hehe, wenn ich mir Deinen Kommentar ins Englische übersetzen lasse (immer noch meine Standardsprache hier), kommt da raus: "Cool, let's how well it works.
.. must have no longer translate itself ;-)) "

Also: alle so schreiben, dass es Google gut übersetzen kann.

:D
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarinepro replies:
Ach was, damit kann man doch prima Spass haben! ;-)))
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Carstenpro says:
Thanks for this feature, even though translation won't be easy for google as most comments are written in a colloquial form. It's nice that it will be easier now to get an idea what all those french comments mean :D with a nice integration here.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
mesipluspro says:
Now ipernity grows altogether! smile
Thank you!

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
♫☼ Seelenflügel ♫☼ says:
Thank you :-)
GENIAL !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
christin
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Bigoode [Frozen account] says:
This is absolutely HUGE !
waaaaa

Chapeau les mecs !!!
serieux la ca déchire grave et ca mérite un communiqué de presse !!
j'vous jure c'est vraiment extra ordinaire ca !!!!!
jamais vu nulle part dans le ouaibeuh !
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Christophe Ruellepro replies:
Huge comme tu dis! merci! On est super excités depuis quelques temps à l'idée de sortir cette possibilité.
Enfin je peux comprendre les nombreux commentaires en allemand dans mon espace ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Bigoode [Frozen account] replies:
frimeur avec ton "nombreux"
PTDR

par contre autre "petit" truc c'est que le lien n'apparait pas ! pour les coms dans notre langue
quel esthetimse !

encore chapeau les mecs
ca déchire à donf votre truc !
bon finalement je reste encore un peu :D
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Christophe Ruellepro replies:
hahaha c'est vrai en plus je dois en avoir 1 ou 2, pas bcp plus ;)

Et oui, c'est toute la difficulté de proposer le lien que lorsque c'est pertinent. Comme d'habitude, pour ajouter un simple lien à la noix ça demande des semaines de réflexion. Vraiment heureux que certain se rendent compte du boulot ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Pandarinepro replies:
Really pleased that some realize the job;)
(Translated by Google)

Hey, I *do* realize the hard work you put into every detail, too! ;-)))

Thank you, it's a pleasure to be here on ipernity - ALWAYS! :-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Bigoode [Frozen account] replies:
jte rassure je m'en rends pas compte du tout PTDR
j'y connais rien moi !
mais en tous cas ca déCHIRE GRAVE !
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
anaïs replies:
juste un truc... je ne suis pas sûre que la façon dont tu parles juste au dessus puisse être traduit dans tous pleins de langues... JAJAJA !
pitin, les lôngues régionales, chu pô sûr k'ça soit traduit, didonc
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Bigoode [Frozen account] replies:
AH AH AH AH HA AH
mi j'cro s't'in cour !
:D
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Дон Андреpro says:
cool
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
StarScream says:
yes cool... nathou tells me that but i cant realize... now i see and very coooooollll
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Be Blog A Lula says:
Wouaouhhhhh ! Alors là, c'est l'idée du siècle héhé !
Fabuleux !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Merci beaucoup.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Andy Harding© says:
excellent idea, quite brilliant.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
anaïs says:
vous faites du super boulot !
et vous lisez dans mes pensées !!!...
merci !
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Amandine // Mata Haripro says:
Franchement c'est GENIAL ! love
PS: Comment Iper sait-il dans quelle langue on s'exprime ? Si on n'utilise pas notre langue d'origine, qu'est-ce qui se passe ?
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Lea d'ipernitypro replies:
C'est simplement de la magie. Et oui. ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Amandine // Mata Haripro replies:
Lol, suis impressionnée ^^
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jean-Michelpro replies:
ya pas mal de techniques, mais je pense que le plus simple est la reconnaissance de caractères spéciaux, l'occurrence de certaines lettres ou tout simplement l'apparition de certains mots.
d'ailleurs je viens de trouver un article là dessus sur Wikipedia, ainsi qu'un ptit testeur en ligne si ca t'intéresse.
Par contre je ne sais pas exactement sur quel technique de reconnaissance est basé l'algo qu'utilise iper.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Amandine // Mata Haripro replies:
M'ci, vi ça m'intéresse (on est geek ou on ne l'est pas, hein ? ;P).
C'est vraiment bien vu en tout cas comme fonctionnalité !
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
♪María♣ says:
A ver que tal traduce el español. Me encanta! je je je
Traduce aceptablemente, Inglés, Francés y Alemán.
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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
♪María♣ edited this comment 16 months ago.
Michael B.pro says:
just tried it on a longer text (English to German) and the quality is astounding.

I'd second Pandarine's wish to turn this option off, because the author's translation will always be better, but still, it's good of you guys to see and provide this option, because it will be a real help to many, many people here. Merci beaucoup.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
© Marco says:
Sorry aber beim aktuellen Stand der automatischen Übersetzung ist diese Funktion Blödsinn!
Just my two cents ;)
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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jean-Michelpro replies:
I don't agree: I was just able to understand you :)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
markus loisson says:
interesting feature.
the first few comments I let the service translate for me here where surprisingly senseful.
let's see how it works...
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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
markus loisson says:
Is it possible to use the "lang" attribute on html-tags to differ languages within multilingual posts (see example) and comments like in the Unofficial ipernity Ideas and Wish Group and to so support translation?

e.g. <p lang="de">deutschsprachiger text</p>

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Explorerhhpro says:
nice idea - but the google quality is so bad - it´s not worth even spending a second on that...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
I wouldn't put it that harsh.

It's extremely bad between German and English, because so many words in German have different meanings (i.e. Hahn, which could be either a rooster or a faucet). But if you use it to understand the general context of a comment, it could be a welcome feature.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Christophe Ruellepro replies:
Yes Pandarine, it's just a simple feature thats helps to understand the general context of a comment just as you said.
Sometimes google translation is realy amazing.
Anyway, there was no intention to provide a perfect translation here. We rely on google and we show where the translation comes from because it's not our job.
I understand your point of view and I also understand that you think it's quite usefull for some people and in some cases. We know the limits and we hope everyone does. Anyway, it help right?
(But why did I write in english?...)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pandarinepro replies:
Because you are a great guy?
;-)))

Thank you - dankeschoen - merci bien!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Roberto Ballerini - travelingpro says:
Wow! It seems to translate better here then on Google Translate! LOL!
I don't know German, but the translation seems always understandable

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Christophe Ruellepro replies:
oui ce n'est pas parfait. D'ailleurs quel "outil" pourrait le prétendre? Mais c'est déjà mieux que rien. Et franchement je suis plutot impressionné de la qualité en général. D'ailleurs on attends avec impatience un groupe qui va recenser les traduction les plus folkloriques. Ca peut être drôle ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Soepkipjepro replies:
Het maakt wel mogelijk nu dat ik kan schrijven in het Nederlands en jullie mij toch kunnen begrijpen :-)

Jammer dat mijn eigen commentaar niet direct gecontroleerd kan worden om het best leesbaar te maken in een andere taal. Ik heb nu mijn Nederlands gecheckt op Google Translate naar de Engelse taal om een correcte vertaling te krijgen
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Jean-Michelpro replies:
OMG ! I feel like I understand dutch ! :D
lol
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Christophe says:
J'ai pas tout lu, mais ça a l'air génial :o))
Merciiiiii !!!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Paŭl Peeraertspro says:
Geweldig! De vertalingen zijn wel maar zus en zo, maar ze kunnen toch heel praktisch zijn. Laatst had ik een commentaar in het Russisch. Nu weet ik ten minste wat er geschreven werd!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Paŭl Peeraerts edited this comment 16 months ago.
♪María♣ replies:
podemos enterder algo al fin :)
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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Soepkipjepro replies:
Door woorden als 'zus en zo' te gebruiken, levert vanzelf al gekke vertalingen op. Als je er bij het schrijven rekening mee houdt en uitdrukkingen en afkortingen vermijdt, dan zal de vertaling vanzelf ook beter worden.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Soepkipje edited this comment 16 months ago.
Lars Sözüerpro replies:
Kaj mi finfine povas kompreni la nederlandan!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
a.C.kpro says:
Very cool :-D
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
daboogieman says:
I like this. It's not perfect of course but it does help me to understand better.

NOW I can communicate with a person in one of my groups who consistently misposts.

I just wish it wasn't affiliated with goofl <- NOT a mistake.

Thank you Ipernity!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Tracypro says:
this makes me happy, as my german and french are nonexistent. :)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pope Guido says:
sense ?
the nacked true is :
if you not speak french you never come in the "inner circle" of the community
and can say ,i feel at home here
sorry only my private personla meaning

80 % of the intersssting stuff is in french
10 % in english

and the rest different languages
;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андреpro replies:
keep your private personal meaning for yourself then...
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Pope Guido replies:
anyone that know a little bit of" what i can make in the www"
know language toools and translation pages
so
sense ?

photos and art need no translation tools
or
it s an universal language

from the beginning of the human species on planet earth
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Дон Андреpro replies:
Je n'aime pas quand on vient a cette place pour dire que "francais es tout que es interessante et le reste es le reste" (en francais pour que tu entends que je t'ai dit)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
josepina whitewall.com/EPHEMERE says:
I like it!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Jean-Michelpro says:
mais ca déchire !!!!!!!!! c'est trop d'la baaaaallle !!! (vas-y Google, amuse toi, hahaha )
bon sérieux je vais enfin pouvoir répondre aux commentaires allemands que j'ai jamais compris ^^
c'est top
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Seyda says:
i like this!!
l can understand now :)))
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Sophie@ipernitypro says:
Ahhhhh, j'adoooore. Franchement, c'est vraiment génial, nous allons enfin pouvoir échanger et partager avec tous !

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Farawé says:
Mais où s'arrêteront-ils? Mais où s'arrêteront-ils?
C'est chaque jour la surprise en ce moment.
Tanke Iou.
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )
Danielle Godetpro says:
GENIAL.... merci IP :-)))
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
wdjpro says:
Thank you, thank you, thank you!!
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Purple T says:
I've had to use online translators anyway, so this will be quicker, and very useful. If it's not perfect then i don't mind. I'd rather have a general understanding of comments, than no understanding at all. So well done, and thank you :-)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Dirkpro says:
*lol* The translated parts are funny and somewhat hard to understand, but at least you can GUESS, what the actual text says ;)

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Christophe Ruellepro replies:
I was just thinking of starting a group to share the funiest translations. No time for that now, but it's a idea ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Jean-Michelpro replies:
you mean something like that ? ;)
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
♪María♣ says:
Ya no somos la torre de Babel!

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Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink )
Françoise Delestradepro says:
Formidable !!!!!!!!!!!!! Bravo à toute l'équipe
Posted 16 months ago. ( permalink / translate )

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